There is a MASSIVE difference between "creative salesmanship" and some of the things ive come accross lately!But yes you are right,this isnt really the place for my "mini-rant".
If anyone would like to discuss these points(theirs and mine) .Then im more than happy to in the appropriate place!
And before i get every sales person this side of timbuktoo having a go at me id just like to point out that i dont believe that you are all as bad as each other,but like with everything,there ARE dodgy ones out there!?!