TiVo wins landmark patent battle

[popper]

might this "TiVo wins landmark patent battle"
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds31615.html
effect the offerings from both NTL and the old TW boxs now in service ?
"TiVo has been awarded $73m in damages after winning a landmark patent battle against EchoStar in a court case that could have massive implications for the company.

The decision, which established that EchoStar had used technology derived from TiVo for its DVR products without permission"

[Stuart]

Depends which areas the patent covers.

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More news:

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-258207.html

http://news.com.com/Industry+ponders..._3-258345.html

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Will be interesting to see if they come to this country, and look at Sky +, as it seems that violates parts of the patent.

[Tristan]

Originally Posted by popper

might this "TiVo wins landmark patent battle"
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds31615.html
effect the offerings from both NTL and the old TW boxs now in service ?
"TiVo has been awarded $73m in damages after winning a landmark patent battle against EchoStar in a court case that could have massive implications for the company.

The decision, which established that EchoStar had used technology derived from TiVo for its DVR products without permission"

And since when exactly do US patent rulings have anything to do with the UK?

[Stuart]

Errm, I believe the Scientific Atlanta boxes are designed in America, and the software used is derived from American software? If this is the case, then the boxes could well be affected.

[popper]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Errm, I believe the Scientific Atlanta boxes are designed in America, and the software used is derived from American software? If this is the case, then the boxes could well be affected.

thats true, and perhaps im miss understanding something ,but i seem to remember that
the current NTL UK is owned by the main NTL company in the US so that may/not? effect things even more?.

also other urls imply that for years many Cable and Satelite companys have taken
profit from the TiVo brand/IP and now this case throws open the door perhaps.

Sky may be covered in contract perhaps, as it appears in a 2001 story
"TiVo, which is sold in the UK through British Sky Broadcasting"

one things for sure TiVo like a challenge (from 2001),
"
TiVo wields patent club against Microsoft

Are Linux users supposed to do this?

By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Published Friday 25th May 2001 08:45 GMT"
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/05..._club_against/

so far i cant find any uk or eu patents for TiVo but that doesnt mean they dont exist, we shall see i guess

the NTL sw is still 'liberate OS' isnt it? i always said NTL and C&W before them, should bin that and use the far
better realtime QNX RTP OS from the canadian owned company.

http://www.the-labs.com/QNX/
their GUI 'Photon' is way better and lighter than anything you have ever seen, and the networking stuff
is great too (far better than any linux) http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=534

strip away all the linux ports that have found their way into the user space today and theres a perfect
realtime OS and GUI thats just fast and QOS thats the best you can find.

[Tristan]

Originally Posted by popper

thats true, and perhaps im miss understanding something ,but i seem to remember that
the current NTL UK is owned by the main NTL company in the US so that may/not? effect things even more?.

also other urls imply that for years many Cable and Satelite companys have taken
profit from the TiVo brand/IP and now this case throws open the door perhaps.

Sky may be covered in contract perhaps, as it appears in a 2001 story
"TiVo, which is sold in the UK through British Sky Broadcasting"

one things for sure TiVo like a challenge (from 2001),
"
TiVo wields patent club against Microsoft

Are Linux users supposed to do this?

By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Published Friday 25th May 2001 08:45 GMT"
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/05..._club_against/

so far i cant find any uk or eu patents for TiVo but that doesnt mean they dont exist, we shall see i guess

the NTL sw is still 'liberate OS' isnt it? i always said NTL and C&W before them, should bin that and use the far
better realtime QNX RTP OS from the canadian owned company.

http://www.the-labs.com/QNX/
their GUI 'Photon' is way better and lighter than anything you have ever seen, and the networking stuff
is great too (far better than any linux) http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=534

strip away all the linux ports that have found their way into the user space today and theres a perfect
realtime OS and GUI thats just fast and QOS thats the best you can find.

The OS that runs the boxes is actually VxWorks, which is just right for the task at hand. The problem is that Liberate runs on top of this (much like Windows 3.1 ran on top of DOS), and it's Liberate's rendering of the boxes' GUI that's slow.