I retuned my freeview box and!

iFrankie · 04-11-2009, 11:12

so i was watching bbc one and something came up telling me to retune my box so i did! i went back to bbc one and come to find that i actually have bbc one WALES! and bbc two wales!, when the news came on it was wales tonight lol, im from the north west so i should get northwest tonight, any ideas why im getting a wales signal?

(this was last night)

**Kymmy** · 04-11-2009, 11:19

Used to pick up Welsh TV extremely good when I had the antenna on the roof in Rusholme, Manchester...

Which direction does your antenna point? (not sure if you'd use winter hill there but if so you might be getting bbc wales on the back lobe of the antenna and if BBC was down when you did the scan BBC wales will be put as channel 1.. )

Try another rescan.. If that doesn't cure it check your antenna is pointing in the right direction..

**Chris** · 04-11-2009, 11:19

You're within range of the Moel-y-Parc transmitter so there are definitely Welsh signals on the air for your box to sniff out. Not sure why it would prefer them to Winter Hill though. Do you have a properly aligned rooftop aerial?

iFrankie · 04-11-2009, 11:29

Right just done an other rescan and it's got worse lol i now have wales bbc one and two and i have northwest bbc one and two, nearly all the bbc channels are picked up from wales :/, im not sure which direction the aerial is in but i know its a very old one like 14 years old or some

it shows

Wales.: BBC ONES
Wales.: BBC TWO
Wales.: BBC NEWS

Northwest.: BBC ONE

you get my drift

**Chris** · 04-11-2009, 11:31

Where is your aerial? Does it point the same way as the others in your street?

**Graham M** · 04-11-2009, 11:32

Seems to me that your antenna MIGHT be a bit wonky to cause this

Raistlin · 04-11-2009, 11:32

No.....where's you wheely bin?

.....sorry, I woke up in the wrong joke

**Kymmy** · 04-11-2009, 11:34

It could be that you've retuned at a bad moment when your normal transmitter is on low power for maintanence.. Or as already suggested by Chris and myself your antenna could be askew...

If you know which way north is then try to tell us which way your antenna is pointing..

One cure if you have reletives/friends living close by is to take your box to them and retune it on thier antenna, that'll tell you instantly if it's a fault with your antenna or a transmitter problem

iFrankie · 04-11-2009, 11:40

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Originally Posted by Chris

Where is your aerial? Does it point the same way as the others in your street?

its pointing the right way but is abit erm wonky as Graham said lol must of been the wind, ill be picking up scotland next lol

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

It could be that you've retuned at a bad moment when your normal transmitter is on low power for maintanence.. Or as already suggested by Chris and myself your antenna could be askew...

If you know which way north is then try to tell us which way your antenna is pointing..

One cure if you have reletives/friends living close by is to take your box to them and retune it on thier antenna, that'll tell you instantly if it's a fault with your antenna or a transmitter problem

its aiming east i think, ill find out

**Chris** · 04-11-2009, 11:42

From your location, I'm going to stick my neck out and say it should be almost due North for the Winter Hill transmitter. For Moel-y-Park it would have to be pointing more or less South West. So if it's wonky it is very wonky indeed. Do you normally get good signal strength off Winter Hill?

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Hmmmm .... East you say .... could be you're using a local relay.

Could you go to http://www.wolfbane.com/cgi-bin/tvd.exe? please, input your postcode and then post the results here. Time to stop guessing and work out exactly what's going on.

iFrankie · 04-11-2009, 11:46

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Originally Posted by Chris

From your location, I'm going to stick my neck out and say it should be almost due North for the Winter Hill transmitter. For Moel-y-Park it would have to be pointing more or less South West. So if it's wonky it is very wonky indeed. Do you normally get good signal strength off Winter Hill?

ah your probably right yeah i get a full signal off Winter Hill, but thats not showing now it just shows north west.
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there ya go

**Chris** · 04-11-2009, 11:59

Hmmmm

It isn't showing up any Welsh transmitter as being in range. Storeton is a relay that broadcasts BBC North West and ITV Granada. So is your aerial pointing north of northeast (in which case it points at Winter Hill) or is it pointing almost due west (in which case it's pointing at Storeton and could conceivably be receiving Moel-y-parc, which is beyond Storeton on the other side of the Dee).

progers · 04-11-2009, 13:35

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Originally Posted by Frankie07

im not sure which direction the aerial is in but i know its a very old one like 14 years old or some

If your aerial is that old, it might be worth upgrading it anyway; one that old would be an aerial with a bandwidth specifically for your TV area whereas for DTV, you need a broadband aerial.

**Chris** · 04-11-2009, 14:21

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Originally Posted by progers

If your aerial is that old, it might be worth upgrading it anyway; one that old would be an aerial with a bandwidth specifically for your TV area whereas for DTV, you need a broadband aerial.

Not strictly true ... you only need a wideband aerial if you want to receieve both analogue and digital signals using the same aerial, and if the transmitter you receive them from uses different channel groups for each service.

If Frankie only wants to get digital transmissions from Winter Hill, then he does not need a wideband aerial; he needs a group C/D aerial as advised in the Wolfbane results he posted earlier (the letters in the column headed Gp).

Frankie ... you still haven't answered, is your aerial really pointing northeast? It's not pointing west by any chance? And is it aligned with the dipoles vertically or horizontally?

soup dragon · 04-11-2009, 14:27

this wouldn't be anything to do with it would it?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/26...witchover.html