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Old 09-10-2007, 14:57   #1
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Freesat from Sky and hacking the STB?

Well, I finally did it. I cancelled my Sky subscription last month, and my STB now functions as a Freesat-from-Sky receiver.

My first impression is that the channel line up is adequate - especially for us, we're trying to lessen the amount of telly we watch - but it is nevertheless substantially lacking compared to the terrestrial Freeview offering.

There is no e4 or More 4 (I know there are contractual reasons for this, hopefully C4 will be able to resolve these early next year). There is no UKTV History. There is no Virgin 1, which is slightly puzzling as it's a new channel and is on Freeview (I wonder whether they have simply inherited a Sky encryption deal from a predecessor channel though).

I would watch UKTV History if it were available and Mrs T quite likes the channel 4 variants. Virgin 1 can go hang itself based on its current line up - I won't miss it.

When the BBC and ITV finally get round to launching their official, trademarked Freesat service I will look very carefully to see what channels are on it. The only problem is that I may have to buy a new STB - unless anyone knows if it's possible to re-programme my Sky Digibox with new EPG software?
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Old 09-10-2007, 15:20   #2
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Re: Freesat from Sky and hacking the STB?

The software will more than likely be stored on Flash ROM so with the right kit you should be able to change the software
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Re: Freesat from Sky and hacking the STB?

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The software will more than likely be stored on Flash ROM so with the right kit you should be able to change the software
PROVIDED the software is for the right receiver. In any case, pukka Freesat receivers will be cheap as chips when they appear.

Meantime, you should be able to manually set up the Sky box to receive other channels that are broadcast from the same cluster of satellites but, for one reason or another, haven't ended up in the EPG.

Check out this site to see if there are any extra channels that you want to get hold of (all those with a buff background are unencrypted):
http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html

If there are, then make a note of the details and thern investigate the setup menu of your STB.

Note that you won't be able to get all the information that is available in the Sky EPG but you may well be able to display the 'now' and 'next' information like a pukka FTA receiver.

If that's too limiting then you may want to get a second LNB so you can receive Hotbird too:
http://www.lyngsat.com/hotbird.html

Or go the whole hog and get a motor and receive thousands of channels - all free:
http://www.lyngsat.com/europe.html
http://www.lyngsat.com/atlantic.html
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Re: Freesat from Sky and hacking the STB?

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PROVIDED the software is for the right receiver. In any case, pukka Freesat receivers will be cheap as chips when they appear.

Meantime, you should be able to manually set up the Sky box to receive other channels that are broadcast from the same cluster of satellites but, for one reason or another, haven't ended up in the EPG.

Check out this site to see if there are any extra channels that you want to get hold of (all those with a buff background are unencrypted):
http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html

If there are, then make a note of the details and thern investigate the setup menu of your STB.

Note that you won't be able to get all the information that is available in the Sky EPG but you may well be able to display the 'now' and 'next' information like a pukka FTA receiver.

If that's too limiting then you may want to get a second LNB so you can receive Hotbird too:
http://www.lyngsat.com/hotbird.html

Or go the whole hog and get a motor and receive thousands of channels - all free:
http://www.lyngsat.com/europe.html
http://www.lyngsat.com/atlantic.html
A sky box is crippled by its software. It will only do 27.5 and 22MSymbol rates. Its also setup to look at a default frequency on bootup and gathers the information on what channels are available on which frequency on Skys EPG by gathering the NIT, BAT and SDT channels.

Have a look at Wizard satellite for boxes which aren't locked to particular providers.
 
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Re: Freesat from Sky and hacking the STB?

Hello Chris, I know you wrote this post in 2007, but I just wanted to say, e4 is now available for free on sky, I have 2 sky boxes, and I cancelled the subscription on the one in my bedroom and I can receive E4 Which is channel 136 on sky.
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Hello Chris, I know you wrote this post in 2007, but I just wanted to say, e4 is now available for free on sky, I have 2 sky boxes, and I cancelled the subscription on the one in my bedroom and I can receive E4 Which is channel 136 on sky.
Yes - and ironically this is due to the launch of Freesat, which is causing the channels that want to be on it to consider moving to FTA broadcast. Much as Sky would like to continue to keep these channels encrypted so you need one of their cards in order to view them.

I will be buying a Freesat integrated TV in time for Christmas this year, James Murdoch can go stuff himself. I don't want his products in my home any more.
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Re: Freesat from Sky and hacking the STB?

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Well, I finally did it. I cancelled my Sky subscription last month, and my STB now functions as a Freesat-from-Sky receiver.

My first impression is that the channel line up is adequate - especially for us, we're trying to lessen the amount of telly we watch - but it is nevertheless substantially lacking compared to the terrestrial Freeview offering.

There is no e4 or More 4 (I know there are contractual reasons for this, hopefully C4 will be able to resolve these early next year). There is no UKTV History. There is no Virgin 1, which is slightly puzzling as it's a new channel and is on Freeview (I wonder whether they have simply inherited a Sky encryption deal from a predecessor channel though).

I would watch UKTV History if it were available and Mrs T quite likes the channel 4 variants. Virgin 1 can go hang itself based on its current line up - I won't miss it.

When the BBC and ITV finally get round to launching their official, trademarked Freesat service I will look very carefully to see what channels are on it. The only problem is that I may have to buy a new STB - unless anyone knows if it's possible to re-programme my Sky Digibox with new EPG software?
i dont see what your getting at ? the channels that you are on about are FTA on Freeview however they never have been on satellite or cable (other then E4 on analogue cable). now what i dont understand is why do you want to change the EPG ? freesat & Sky FTA use the same satellites so you wont get anything extra. also you cant reprogram your Sky receiver as no 'hacks' as you put it have ever been published, thats not to say that they dont exist. Sky have lawyers that would come down on anyone heavily that did, the same as they would if anyone publicly hacked Videoguard. so in short unless you 'hack' & write a new EPG yourself you wont get one.

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PROVIDED the software is for the right receiver. In any case, pukka Freesat receivers will be cheap as chips when they appear.

Meantime, you should be able to manually set up the Sky box to receive other channels that are broadcast from the same cluster of satellites but, for one reason or another, haven't ended up in the EPG.
other then a few tests & news, in store & health club radio stations there are only five other channels that aint in the EPG (other then regional versions of ITV1, Channel 4 & Channel 4 +1): OH TV, Shorts TV, Retail Info & irish versions of Bubble Hits & Sky News.
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Re: Freesat from Sky and hacking the STB?

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i dont see what your getting at ? the channels that you are on about are FTA on Freeview however they never have been on satellite or cable (other then E4 on analogue cable). now what i dont understand is why do you want to change the EPG ? freesat & Sky FTA use the same satellites so you wont get anything extra. also you cant reprogram your Sky receiver as no 'hacks' as you put it have ever been published, thats not to say that they dont exist. Sky have lawyers that would come down on anyone heavily that did, the same as they would if anyone publicly hacked Videoguard. so in short unless you 'hack' & write a new EPG yourself you wont get one.
If you reply to a post that's 7 months old without making any allowances for discussion we've had since, you're bound to to get confused. Although I suspect getting confused is something that comes easily to you.
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Re: Freesat from Sky and hacking the STB?

This is not the forum to ask for details of how to modify any Set Top Boxes since we will only support legitimately subscribed services.

Since this is a rather old thread it is now closed.
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