BT begins FTTC broadband rollout pilots

[popper]

Originally Posted by Broadbandings

Don't worry, avoiding Nuneaton is pretty natural to most

LOL.

the thing i find very strange, BT didnt see fit to put wythenshawe/manchester internation airport (10 miles south of manchester city center) on the list though.

wythenshaws (including VMs baguley building etc) got to be perhaps Virgin Media's largest single deployment of residential cable, being still one of the largest garden citys of the EU.

and Manchester airport's 3rd party companies and hotels, offices etc not to mention the massive wythenshaw hospital and their need for many high speed medical and other data tranfers have got to be werth a good few long term FTTC/P... and fibre backhaul lines.

so why didnt BT see fit to put that on their Phase 1 never mind Phase 2 lists... dont they want to take on VM! there, or did they just mess up the chance, very odd.

hell, you could probably make a very good case today for sighting a few new large Co-Location sites there and run new fibre from them all over the country to encurage new IT Co-location and backhaul growth in the NW etc...

[Ignitionnet]

Very early days yet. Many areas that aren't in phase 1 or 2 that you would have thought would have been no-brainer areas.

I would imagine all major urban areas will be covered by FTTC or even FTTP though in time.

The Wythenshawe exchange itself is actually not exceptionally large, and is low business density!

SamKnows Broadband - Availability - Wythenshawe (MRWYT) Exchange

There's no way the hospital would use the consumer-grade FTTC/P services they'll have leased connectivity to NHSNet.

These businesses are hardly going to be running on cable modems, so it's probably a fair bet that the business situation wasn't a major consideration. Small branch offices, SMEs, etc, will be the target of the NGA products. Larger companies may get a line in for backup but will still have the SLA'd leased circuits.

[miloo1230]

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[soicky]

Originally Posted by miloo1230

That is so nice collection.Well after finding your this comment there is no need for any book reading search of last few years.I like your idea for distributing the books by years.Thats so nice attempts with links.Please continue this type of activity.Thank you for sharing such a nice comment. ans sources..

Life is too short to be serious, laugh it up.

[Ignitionnet]

Speedtest from an early triallist still on 5Mbit upstream, will be 10 by now.

[Horizon]

....he must be sitting right on the cabinet to get those speeds.

[BenMcr]

The new cabinets have started going in around where I live (Rusholme Exchange)

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Horizon

....he must be sitting right on the cabinet to get those speeds.

40Mbit is good to 750m or so on that guage of copper. Theoretical performance is 50Mbit at 1km depending on line quality.

[Nedkelly]

Anyone know what kit they are putting in ?

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Nedkelly

Anyone know what kit they are putting in ?

Unsure what the kit in the cabinets is apart from that it has 10GbE interfaces and does VDSL2. They're using Huawei for the fibre to home stuff so wouldn't surprise if they were using Huawei for the cabinet MSANs as well.

[Ignitionnet]

For the interested BT have released information on their next phase of upgrades, to be completed by Summer 2010:

London

ALBERT DOCK
WANSTEAD
MILE END
PARSONS GREEN
SKYPORT
GREENFORD
MERTON PARK
PUTNEY
WIMBLEDON
SUTTON CHEAM
MITCHAM

South East

BICESTER
NEWPORT PAGNELL
AYLESBURY
DIDCOT
MAIDENHEAD
CROWTHORNE
WOKINGHAM
EARLEY
LANGLEY
CAVERSHAM
READING SOUTH
HENLEY ON THAMES
LOCKSHEATH
CHANDLERS FORD
FAIR OAK
ANDOVER
EASTLEIGH
BRIGHTON HOVE
SITTINGBOURNE
PORTSMOUTH CENTRAL

South West

TOOTHILL
BLUNSDON
CHIPPENHAM
WORLE
PORTISHEAD

Wales

LLANISHEN
LLANEDEYRN

West Midlands

SOLIHULL
EARLSDON
KENILWORTH
TAMWORTH
WARWICK
HEDNESFORD

East Midlands

STONEYGATE
COALVILLE

East of England

HARPENDEN
ORTONS
BRAINTREE

North West

WILLASTON
BRAMHALL
CONGLETON

Yorkshire and The Humberside

LOFTHOUSE GATE
GUISELEY
BEAUCHIEF
RANMOOR

Scotland

PENICUIK
DALGETY BAY
DUNFERMLINE
LIVINGSTON STATION
GLASGOW NEWTON MEARN
BOTHWELL

Northern Ireland

BANGOR, NORTHERN IRELAND

[Welshchris]

They r really pulling all the stops out in Wales as usual

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Welshchris

They r really pulling all the stops out in Wales as usual

I know! It's almost as if only 1/20th of the population of the UK live there and the two most populous cities have populations of less than 350,000 and less than 240,000 respectively giving it the most expensive population in the UK to cover along with the lowest economic output per head in the Union and a lower take up of more expensive broadband services.

It's nothing personal, just business. My own extremely affluent and densely populated area of London isn't there either. In fact my entire Borough isn't there despite having the highest self-employment rate in the UK, lowest benefit claimant count, and a gross value add / economic output per head nearly double that of Wales.

I am not sure exactly what the criteria are, however I do know that service providers have a lot of input and evidently not that many are particularly interested in Wales as evidenced by the low LLU rate there. If there were money to be made the ISPs would be all over BT to build the network to help them make it.

[MadGamer]

Good to see the area that I live in will be upgraded this year

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by MadGamer

Good to see the area that I live in will be upgraded this year

Reading your ISP though you should note that Sky have as yet shown no interest at all in delivering services over this network, in common with a lot of other LLU operators who appear to be sulking over this possibly making their LLU investment in MSANs redundant.