Maybe the Government should follow Australia !!

TheOne · 07-04-2009, 10:12

the government will initially invest A$4.7bn with the overall investment from government and the private sector reaching up to A$43bn over eight years.

I think there going to be doing FTTH (Fibre To The Home) so will be able to get upto 100Mbps !!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7986918.stm

*sloman* · 07-04-2009, 11:24

Beat me to it, Just seen this on BBC news. Great News maybe our government will now follow. More than likely not.

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"Just as railway tracks laid out the future of the 19th Century and electricity grids the future of the 20th Century, so broadband represents the core infrastructure of the 21st Century," he said.

Didn't Brown say a similar thing but nothing ever happened, of yes BT will do FTTC already 10 years out of date!

TheOne · 07-04-2009, 15:00

I think its a very ambitious plan, but much needed. Australia seems to have the same problem as the UK with rural areas unable to get any decent broadband services.

Its a shame the UK government cant see the long-term need for such an investment

haydnwalker · 07-04-2009, 15:17

Theres no "Maybe" about it - that is what should happen...but it won't so don't get excited!

Its all about making money here, not about helping the economy or furthering peoples technologies.

**Stuart** · 07-04-2009, 15:18

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Originally Posted by TheOne

I think its a very ambitious plan, but much needed. Australia seems to have the same problem as the UK with rural areas unable to get any decent broadband services.

Its a shame the UK government cant see the long-term need for such an investment

I've no doubt they do, but our Government is so in love with giving Big Business huge amounts of cash (see various Government and Public Sector IT contracts and the funding for any amount of PFI projects) that there is no way on earth they would establish their own non-profit company to do this, they would rather give the cash to these large companies who would then provide the minimum they are required for as little as possible and pocket the extra cash as profit.

AndyCambs · 07-04-2009, 16:29

I read this headline and wondered whether it meant deportation for all MPs who claimed excessive expenses - then I read it and was disappointed...

Having said that Kevin isn't sure where the money is coming from..

TheOne · 07-04-2009, 17:11

I'm interesting in seeing how this unfolds and comes to frutition over the next few years, hopefully that will inspire the clowns in the british government to get a move on

georgepomone · 07-04-2009, 17:37

Check the population of Australia eg.number of houses against the UK. The cost would be somewhat different.
George.

downquark1 · 07-04-2009, 17:41

This is unexpected, I was under the impression the new Australian government was full of technophobes.

danielf · 07-04-2009, 18:20

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Originally Posted by downquark1

This is unexpected, I was under the impression the new Australian government was full of technophobes.

Mandatory blocking of 'illegal sites' anyone?

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...7-2862,00.html

Ignitionnet · 07-04-2009, 20:10

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Originally Posted by georgepomone

Check the population of Australia eg.number of houses against the UK. The cost would be somewhat different.
George.

Yes George, much cheaper per home here. Worst case probably 25bn for coverage of the nearly 60 million people in the UK with similar services vs 21bn for coverage of the 30 million people in Australia, less than 2/3rds the cost.

Australia is massive and very spread out, UK is much smaller and much higher population density.

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Originally Posted by danielf

Mandatory blocking of 'illegal sites' anyone?

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...7-2862,00.html

ATM That's no worse than the IWF list that we enjoy as VM subscribers right now. Molehill meet mountain.

punky · 07-04-2009, 20:28

I can't understand this. Australia being an island in the middle of nowhere has always made the Internet slow and costly. Pings took ages, and download caps were draconian compared to us. I guess its got better since I last looked, but probably not that much.

I can't see how investing in FTTH distribution will help with this, unless it includes provisioning for better connections with Asia?

Ignitionnet · 08-04-2009, 15:15

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Originally Posted by punky

I can't understand this. Australia being an island in the middle of nowhere has always made the Internet slow and costly. Pings took ages, and download caps were draconian compared to us. I guess its got better since I last looked, but probably not that much.

I can't see how investing in FTTH distribution will help with this, unless it includes provisioning for better connections with Asia?

New fibre is going in this year punkster. Primary issue was that most of the international bandwidth was controlled by one company, Telstra, the new fibre and other upgrades to existing fibre will alleviate this.

There's also the profit side of things, VM can get away with certain aspects of the service sucking moose wang because most of the competition do the same or worse, with open access fibre copious amounts of strong competition incoming.

Regarding the pings, yes they are slower than ours to bits of Europe and the east coast US but that's the same as most - they have similar pings to us to west coast US and obviously better to Asia.

**Hugh** · 08-04-2009, 16:44

Give this man a prize for best metaphor of the month

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sucking moose wang

imho, obviously