Truly unlimited broadband
11-03-2009, 23:50
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Truly unlimited broadband
Sky Broadband Max now offers a truly unlimited broadband service with no fair usage policy restrictions and no broadband speed caps. If you sign up for our Sky Broadband Max service it means you will be free to download as much as you want, whenever you want.
http://packages.sky.com/surf/?CMP=KNC-UKesalesSearch
If they could do 16meg I would jump at it.
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12-03-2009, 02:41
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
my ex had the upto 16mb service.
He would get 9 - 12mb most of the time.
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12-03-2009, 05:41
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
And if I'm not mistaken it only costs a tenner a month if taken with the TV package, can't be bad.
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12-03-2009, 08:54
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
That's not bad but surely it will just attract all the users that want to cache the internet and newsgroups and the service will become unusable?
Will be interesting to find out.
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12-03-2009, 08:59
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
Quote:
Originally Posted by frogstamper
And if I'm not mistaken it only costs a tenner a month if taken with the TV package, can't be bad.
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No, it's £10 if taken with Sky Talk.
I was 1.7km from the exchange in my old home and got 15mb, although thats road distance, not line. Their max package has always been unlimited as far as i know.
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12-03-2009, 13:36
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
Yes they removed it last year sometime. It was on the Gadget Show at some stage, on their `unlimited' broadband campaign.
Sky Remove Fair Use Policy From Max Broadband
Video here http://fwd.five.tv/videos/internet-d...ampaign-update
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12-03-2009, 17:35
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Double-Choc
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
From Sky's T&Cs:
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(h) To protect our network and maintain quality of service for all our users we can temporarily or permanently control or restrict your online activities via Sky Broadband where such activities may have a detrimental effect on other customers’ quality of service and it is reasonable for us to do so (e.g. sending “spam” Messages (see Condition 4(b)) or hosting a website).
ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY
Irrespective of which Product you have subscribed to, our Acceptable Use Policy (“AUP”) will apply to you and those who you allow to use Sky Broadband.
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Well, it's unlimited except in so far that it's limited
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12-03-2009, 20:14
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
The ONLY true unlimited connection is an uncontended leased line. even IF theres no artifical restrictions (though there is via there AUP) theres still the restriction of contention of 25+ users sharing that 16mbps
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12-03-2009, 20:32
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
OK section `h' is a bit worrying, but it depends on what activities are in (see Condition 4(b)) or hosting a website)'. If downloading too much is in there, they're telling porky pies about truely unlimited service.
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Isn't a AUP is different than a FUP. An AUP relates to behaviour online (e.g. defamatory, threatening, obscene, harmful, pornographic or otherwise illegal material)
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12-03-2009, 20:37
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
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Originally Posted by Noggo
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Yup, this is old news.
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Originally Posted by cookie_365
From Sky's T&Cs:
Well, it's unlimited except in so far that it's limited 
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That's an " Acceptable Use Policy", not a " Fair Use Policy". It basically says "Don't use your Sky BB connection for anything illegal".
The " Fair Use Policy", which was previously used to limit Sky BB Max, no longer applies to Sky BB Max & has not done so for 6 months.
The other quote, regarding restrictions "To protect our network" gives examples such as sending spam or hosting a website. Both reasonable things for them to restrict.
It is still unlimited... No usage cap (soft, hard, official, unofficial), no FUP, no shaping/throttling/management, etc. etc. ...
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12-03-2009, 21:07
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
Just been over on the BT webby and look for yourselves and see if you come to the same conclusion that I did.
BT Total Broadband package option 3 - Unlimited on FUP
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12-03-2009, 21:16
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
... and all BT Total Broadband services are subject to traffic management when using P2P at peak times.
Quote:
B. Network Management
4. What is BT's policy on Peer-to-Peer (P2P) applications?
...apply speed restrictions to all P2P traffic at peak times. We manage these restrictions daily depending on the demands on the network, but typically they will be in place 4pm - midnight on weekdays and 9am - midnight on the weekend.
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The *only* Sky Broadband package to have any kind of traffic management/throttling/shaping is Sky Broadband "Connect", and that is only because it is a re-sold BT Wholesale ADSLMax service for people not able to get Sky's LLU services.
Sky LLU "Base"/"Mid"/"Max" - no traffic management.
and also... Sky LLU "Max" - no usage limits & no FUP.
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12-03-2009, 21:34
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
yep, I did notice about p2p management but as I don't like what most people use it for I didn't mention it. As it helps the other customers get a better quality service. Option 1 is limited on streaming, but again that's probably a good thing as they haven't got a lot of data download available before hitting the limit.
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14-03-2009, 03:27
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
Calwisp has no no fair usage policy restrictions
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14-03-2009, 04:27
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Re: Truly unlimited broadband
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Originally Posted by AWGoodson
Calwisp has no no fair usage policy restrictions
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They're also not in the UK.
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