BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
07-06-2005, 10:29
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BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/cgi-bin/n...EFpFkkynfTRBDN
Does anybody know if NTL are gonna match this?
if they don't i will be jumping ship  450Kbps upload will be good for me as i'm Xbox Live gamer.
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07-06-2005, 10:37
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
I certainly won't be. MY NTL service has gone down I think once in 2 years.
A BTOpenworld account I have experience of, goes down completely once every 1-2 weeks. And every other day, or occaisonally two, you have to disconnect and reconnect to get the service backs. Disgraceful reliability.
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07-06-2005, 10:38
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
Shouldn't this be in the Alternatives section?
Last edited by Electrolyte01; 07-06-2005 at 11:05.
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07-06-2005, 10:38
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
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Originally Posted by punky
I certainly won't be. MY NTL service has gone down I think once in 2 years.
A BTOpenworld account I have experience of, goes down completely once every 1-2 weeks. And every other day, or occaisonally two, you have to disconnect and reconnect to get the service backs. Disgraceful reliability.
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You could always choose a decent ADSL isp.
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07-06-2005, 11:07
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
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Originally Posted by Tragedy
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That's great, as long as you're in the area to get the MAX speed. Don't forget, it's not guaranteed that you'll get anywhere near that. 
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07-06-2005, 11:08
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
Yes, 8mbps maybe, but with BT's crappy cap, the speed will eat it within a few hours.
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07-06-2005, 11:13
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
Moved to correct forum.
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07-06-2005, 11:39
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
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Originally Posted by jtwn
Yes, 8mbps maybe, but with BT's crappy cap, the speed will eat it within a few hours.
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Then don't use BT as your ADSL ISP. I would presume that all ADSL ISP's will offer the upto 8 mbps service once it becomes available.
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07-06-2005, 15:10
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
Is this to be on BT Ipstream ie. available on all ADSL exchanges?
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08-06-2005, 10:51
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
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Originally Posted by Tragedy
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Hehe pings wise it won't, infact it could make them worse as BT are only guaranteeing on the trials that speeds will be over 2Mbps at peak times, they will be extensively traffic shaping customers to try and prevent their exchanges from maxing out. Will only be of any use for hosting, can't see many people on ADSL, and certainly not on IPStream touching the pings I have right now:
Code:
Pinging www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
with 32 bytes data (60 bytes IP):
Reply from 82.133.85.65: seq=0000 time=9.126ms TTL=56 ID=8f12
Reply from 82.133.85.65: seq=0001 time=9.485ms TTL=56 ID=8f2d
Reply from 82.133.85.65: seq=0002 time=9.270ms TTL=56 ID=8f49
Reply from 82.133.85.65: seq=0003 time=9.132ms TTL=56 ID=8f59
Statistics for www.jolt.co.uk:
Packets: sent=4, rcvd=4, error=0, lost=0 (0% loss) in 1.509142 sec
RTTs of replies in ms: min/avg/max: 9.126 / 9.253 / 9.485
Personally I find the Red/Amber/Green stats on Samknows (these are stats with existing speeds not the 8Mbps services) found at http://www.samknows.com/broadband/capacity-summary.php a little disconcerting.
If you're a downloader though am sure it'll be all good... so long as you're realistic and aren't expecting to see anywhere near 8Mbit at peak times.
Welcome to the wonderful world of contention bwahaha.
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08-06-2005, 17:38
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
*Cough* You were saying ig? 
Quote:
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ping www.ntlworld.com -t
Pinging www.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.30] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Reply from 62.253.162.30: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=247
Ping statistics for 62.253.162.30:
Packets: Sent = 38, Received = 38, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 18ms, Average = 9ms
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^^ Even with my crappy router (likes to spike me with lag  ).
If ADSL goes to offering up to high speeds, I'm all for cable going that way too, even if the congestion will only be up to 80% of your speed (given that they offer something like, lets say...10mb  ); however if it affects pings there is no way i can support it.
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08-06-2005, 18:00
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
That'd be with cable I presume, rather than ADSL
Still own you to Jolt
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08-06-2005, 23:36
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
as speeds go up contention affect goes up with it, I would expect max speed to go way below 80% at peak time on a 8mbit connection using 50:1 contention.
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09-06-2005, 22:30
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
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Originally Posted by Ignition
That'd be with cable I presume, rather than ADSL
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Bleh, jolt schmolt ;[ Cable, of course 
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10-06-2005, 15:03
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Re: BT Confirms 8Mbps November Launch
mmnn ok bt having a 8mb , but then they will cap it, we want one uncapped.
where does it say about bt going to 8mb ?
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