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Old 20-09-2012, 18:03   #1
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Rearranging V+ and Tivo boxes, modem and splitters. OK?

Currently my set up is:

Cable from outside to isolator in lounge: short cable to splitter. One branch goes to modem (and router etc) upstairs (50m), other branch goes straight to second splitter in lounge. From there, one branch goes to V+ Box in lounge, other branch goes to Tivo Box in kitchen (25m). All installed by Virgin engineers.

I want to move the boxes around a bit as follows:

V+ and Tivo boxes to stay where they are, modem and router to move next door to kitchen. Using same splitters, the wiring becomes:

From isolator direct to splitter in lounge (as now). One branch direct to V+ Box in lounge. Other branch 25m to splitter in kitchen. One branch goes straight to Tivo box in kitchen, other branch to modem in next room.

As things currently are therefore the modem gets half the signal, the V+ and Tivo a quarter each. As rearranged, the V+ will get half, the Tivo and the modem a quarter each.

Will the above work OK (assuming the splitters are identical)?
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Old 20-09-2012, 20:31   #2
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Re: Rearranging V+ and Tivo boxes, modem and splitters. OK?

What's your modem power levels on your modem? 192.168.100.1
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Re: Rearranging V+ and Tivo boxes, modem and splitters. OK?

Thanks for your reply

Upstream 47.2 dBmV
Downstream 2.8 dBmV
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Re: Rearranging V+ and Tivo boxes, modem and splitters. OK?

Yeah should be fine, your upstream will rise to 51 and your downstream will lower to just below 0 so both are within correct levels
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Re: Rearranging V+ and Tivo boxes, modem and splitters. OK?

Thanks a lot, you saved me £99 (or whatever Virgin's callout is)!
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Re: Rearranging V+ and Tivo boxes, modem and splitters. OK?

I made all the rearrangements as above and everything works fine. Your power level predictions were pretty much spot on.

One further question if you don't mind: there is an isolator where the cable first enters the house, and a further one where, having been split once and left the house, the cable re-enters. It doesn't run underground, just around the outside walls.

Will two isolators in series affect my broadband? Speeds seem ok but ping (in games) perhaps slightly off, though only slightly.
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Re: Rearranging V+ and Tivo boxes, modem and splitters. OK?

It doesn't affect your bb performance, it's required In case of a power surge so please don't remove them
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Re: Rearranging V+ and Tivo boxes, modem and splitters. OK?

I do understand the purpose of an isolator, but I would have thought just one, where the cable first enters the house, would have been sufficient?
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Re: Rearranging V+ and Tivo boxes, modem and splitters. OK?

But it leaves your house and goes in again, I suppose a lightning strike is a possibility
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Re: Rearranging V+ and Tivo boxes, modem and splitters. OK?

Not very likely, but leaving that aside, what might the effect of two isolators in series be? Even if I don't plan to remove either, I would be interested to know.
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Re: Rearranging V+ and Tivo boxes, modem and splitters. OK?

It will loose 0.4db of signal on the upstream and downstream, its just like adding a piece of cable
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Re: Rearranging V+ and Tivo boxes, modem and splitters. OK?

OK thanks for your replies, appreciate you taking the time and trouble to advise.
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Re: Rearranging V+ and Tivo boxes, modem and splitters. OK?

The point of the additional isolator is to protect your kit from each other as well as the network, therefore one surge from device will not knock out the others.
In an ideal world there should be an isolator for each individual piece of CPE (modems & STBs).
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