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Originally Posted by Ramrod
No sh*t! 
Sorry Kronas, no disrespect to your thread/post, just a comment about how long it takes the establishment to recognise the bleedin' obvious!
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I'd agree that it is obvious that smoking and being fat isn't going to do you any good. However, this is quantitative and as Tony's latest gurus, McKinsey, say, "Everything can be measured, and what gets measured gets managed".