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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
I am 5 years of retirement amd through out my life l have paid my taxes and National Insurance to insure that my life is worth survival, so why is it if l become ill, would not be able to get the drugs l need to survive, as the NHS cannot afford the drug.
We have heard today that a drug costing approx under a pound is going to be used for a certain illness, would not put a strain on the NHS.
The cost of a life is paramount, therefore the NHS should provide that drug, no matter what the cost, we have already heard that another drug that prolong life is too expensive to buy. WHY isn't life important, and we are paying for that drug via Insurance, there is something wrong somewhere.
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The issue is that you aren't paying for that drug via NI any more than I have the right to expect better care from the NHS than someone else because I pay more taxes than they do.
The NHS is a socialised healthcare system - we contribute as individuals and our contributions are shared between society, there is no relationship at all between contribution and service received just as there is no relationship between the services received and the amount that must be paid.
If the service isn't as people would wish it to be everyone has to pay more tax in order to provide the funding.
The alternative is private insurance. If you were to pay that the NHS would be quite adequate for emergency and GP care with the insurance as a backup for more major issues.
While it is pants that people with money get better healthcare that is sadly the way it is. Healthcare costs money, drugs cost money, because the people providing the healthcare and the drugs must make money to live and to recoup investment.
With that in mind the NHS has to cater for the population as a whole. As a socialised healthcare provider it has to do the best it can with the resources it has for the majority of people - which means that a fairly comfortably well off person like myself who pays 4 figures in tax a month receives the exact same service as someone who has never worked a day in their life.
Just in case you weren't aware Arthur National Insurance receipts don't cover health and welfare costs, these have to draw from central taxation to be funded. Yes it's totally inaccurate to refer to it as National Insurance, though I think I've ranted on in the past about the need to ring fence funding both for the NHS and welfare so that we can all see the contribution to healthcare and social welfare quite clearly on our payslips.
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
Well lets put it this way, if or my wife need treatment and need a drug to keep us alive, and the NHS say it is too expensive to buy this drug, then why the earth have l have into the state all my life and cannot get the drug l need to stay alive.
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What have you put into the state and what have you taken our Arthur?
If we're going to talk about things in this manner are you sure you have actually put more into the state than you have received? I'm not being funny here - most people actually haven't.
I would suggest you've put into the state in return for all the municipal services, healthcare, welfare, education for mini-Arthurs, etc you and your dependents have received over the years
EDIT: I'm not hugely enamoured with the NHS at the moment myself by the way.
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Ignitionnet loves the NHS. Having to wait 1.5 weeks for a GP appointment then having to leave due to over 40 minutes of overrun from ONE person before me is great. Oh and it's a mere 1.5 weeks until the next one. So cool that I can see a brain surgeon if need be within a couple of days, but have to referred first by a GP I have to wait 1.5 weeks and have about an hour free for a 10 minute appointment
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