No i don't want them doing that Roger but how much can you screw up removing graffiti or other community based things
. That can be done once and only once there intention to not work no matter what they are offered is determined. Most people on unemployment or other benefits will accept an appropriate job or oppurtunity and will grasp it with open hands but as you said not enough of those exist and our training structure in the UK as a whole is pathetic for a so called developed nation.