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Old 10-03-2010, 10:46   #133
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Re: Will we ever get to the truth about Ashcroft's tax status

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Originally Posted by Flyboy View Post
It is not just JUST tax status though is it? It is the influence he has on the Tory party, his funding of marginal seats and the fact that he lied to the Tory leadership. Surely everyone can see the wrong in that, can't they?

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As this thread is about Ashcroft, do you or do you not agree that his lies were wrong.

Oops, sorry I forgot, you haven't even acknowledged that he lied.
I've gone a lot further than you ever have when it comes to condemning any wrongdoing on your side of the divide. I've stated clearly that if he lied/deliberately misled anyone that was shameful. Given that I'm still not privy to exactly what he said to whom (and vice versa), I really can't do more than that can I?? Unless of course you want me to treat him as guilty until proved innocent - something you seem very concerned about when it suits you.....

We have a plethora of examples of New Labour lies on a magnitude which truly dwarf anything you claim Ashcroft's done and you've nothing to say about them. Yet you find the time to start a thread about a guy who isn't in power and is accused of telling a few porkies to his mates. You turn a blind eye to the donations and influence of New Labour's non-doms, Mandelson's past and all those well documented examples of their interpretation of being 'whiter than white', yet demand Cameron sack Ashcroft. Now you're again banging on about what Ashcroft's money's been spent on. Has the money been spent illegally then? I dare say all that non-dom funding given to the party which is in power has been spent on keyboards and other office sundries for No.10 and not a penny towards winning the next election...

I note you still can't bring yourself to comment on why it was that Brown decided to drop the changes in the rules re. non-doms. If it'd been a government of a different hue which had done it we'd never have heard the end of it would we. That says it all really - you like asking questions but hate answering them just like Gordon Brown.

We've had 13 years of lies, spin and ineptitude in the heart of government on a grand scale and you're silent about it. You clearly feel we should opt for more of the same at the next election and you've been challenged several times now to start a thread setting out new Labour's success stories and educating us why we should vote for them. We're still all waiting for that.....

If this is the best you can on behalf of a 'government' that's been in power for well over a decade and hasn't done anything wrong it's really not very good. It is, however, typical New Labour methodology refined over the last 13 years during which they've become experts at discrediting those who dare to oppose them in order to draw attention away from their lies, mistakes and abject failure.

Details of the emails between the Brown adviser Damian McBride and the Labour blogger Derek Draper

The sound of New Labour supporters claiming 'foul' when it comes to standards of morality, integrity and decency within parliament really does take the biscuit when it comes to hypocrisy.
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