[martyh]

Originally Posted by SMG

As has been said, people who want to work invariably find work, its not those people who should be targeted. Its the people who refuse to work, for one reason or another. If you have been trained & have a skill, thats fine, you should be able to find work. However, if your skill is no longer needed, or there is a glut on the market, you have 2 choices. retrain, or work in a lower paid job.

i agree as i have said retraining is always a viable option,and imo if someone has the ability to achieve top dollar then retraining to a similar standard won't be problem

My bro-in-law was a senior draftsman engineer, a well educated, university graduate. When PC`s emerged, with C.A.D. his job was finished. He was asked to retrain to use CAD, no way, he said, computers will never take off. (Idiot) So he sat on his backside for 2 years, before finally getting a job working in an office, at a vastly reduced wage.

Anyone who refuses to work after a set period of time, should be targetted, they should be forced to take a job with at least the minimum wage. Anyone refusing would have their benefit stopped.

Agreed but retraining in a job suited to there abilities is preferable and if they refuse training then stop benefits

I am aware that there are highly qualified people out there who have earned top money. But, to be fair, if the job has gone, & they refuse to work, they are a burden on an already overtaxed state, &, everyone who wants to work has to live them down. These people would have to work for their benefits & if that works out to be 50p an hour, so be it.

i still think that a potential 40hrs for dole is a step to far

As far as I'm concerned, a shelf stacker or burger flipper is higher up the ladder than anyone who refuses to work.

agree 100%

What is it with some of you?? Burger flippers, shelf stacker's, now people who clean toilets?? Are you lot so far above doing jobs like these, how long would the country last if these people stopped working?

Last bin mens strike was the same, guys being called rotten for not cleaning the crap away, how long do you "holier than thou" people think you will last without some of these essential workers.

no-one is knocking them we need them as much as we need architects ,builders and company directors ect the difference is professional people undergo alot of training and have a great deal of expertise which is wasted if they are forced to work in mcdonalds or some such place for just over a pound an hour