[the-cable-guy]

? how are they doing no one any favours ? Channel 4 have a contract with Sky concerning the encryption of their channels (as five do) & to be fair you cant expect Sky to waver this because BBC & ITV have released an EPG. most ppl that i know (who are not technically minded) know how to add other channels & if their subscribing to Sky or have a FTV viewing card then why would they care when their getting those channels already ? also none of those integrated/ethernet enabled tv's/receivers are on the market yet so you cant compare Sky's equipment to equipment that isint even available yet.

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for anyone that doesnt know how here is a guide on how to add other channels on Sky: http://www.vowles-home.demon.co.uk/Sat/SkyITV.htm ignore the bit about ITV, which is out of date but how to add other channels isint.

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& heres tuning details for Channel 4's FTA feeds:

Channel 4: http://en.kingofsat.net/find.php?que...l&filtre=Clear

More 4 & More 4 + 1: http://en.kingofsat.net/find.php?que...l&filtre=Clear

E4 UK & E4 UK + 1: http://en.kingofsat.net/find.php?que...l&filtre=Clear

Film 4 & Film 4 +1 (which are FTA anyway so viewers with Sky receivers dont need to manually tune the Film 4 channels in): http://en.kingofsat.net/find.php?que...l&filtre=Clear