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Originally Posted by Xaccers
But this isn't the situation where it's simply that person's time, and no amount of praying would save them, it's the situation where if just one person prayed then they would not die, but because no one has, no deity is going to get of it's omnipotent backside and do a damn thing.
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Far from it for you to try and read God's intention.....
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
If prayer makes a difference, then it means that action by a deity is only taking place because that deity is being asked to intercede. Not the actions of love or even giving a damn.
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I have not said prayer makes a difference. I'm saying I believe it CAN make a difference. There are times when God's will in absolute.
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Originally Posted by Xaccers
It's the same with the hanging off a window ledge analogy. If no-one asks for help for the person hanging, then they will slip and fall. So for someone to be in a position to help them but refuse unless asked does not portray that person in a good light, wouldn't you agree?
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Not at all. Perhaps help has already been sent for without the person knowing about it.
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
Ok can someone resend the memo to xaccers that we have done this to death and have all moved on lol.
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Trust me, from experience you'll be waiting a LONG time....