[Scrubbs]

I bought a yamada ( I think its a lite on drive) dvd recorder about a year ago from maplins and it's rubbish, far too noisy, could not get it to record on a - or a + dvdr, only on a dvdrw. Only good for time slipping tv on to the hard drive. Have since bought a sony which is excellent. I seem to think all the dheap players/recorders are very old defunct drives.