[RizzyKing]

Ok firstly Incog i am not saying we give up rights or anything like that i am saying there is a time and a place for them. You cannot commit the armed forces to a conflict and then tie their hands so we do it in a fair and nicey nicey way all that happens when you try that is you prolong the conflict and the suffering causing harm to more people then you do then if you go in hard fast and do what is needed.

Rob i see the point you are making and trust me soldiers and everyone else involved in "government policy" has a feeling of being a pawn in a game they rarely understand and never control. What worries me is that we will have the public at home wringing their hands and crying out for everything to be done fairly to an enemy that doesn't share the sentiment and grind us down by attrition. It's ok being all civilised and moral here in the UK it's another thing to have to bear it in mind when someone is trying to take your head off in a warzone.

Bottom line for any government if you commit the forces to a conflict let them damn well do what they do best to end it quicker then trying to be a liberal with an assault rifle.