[Russ B]

One obvious way to stop people boasting about uing 'chipped' boxes or cloned modems would be to pass their IP addresses on to VM but we do not do that and neither will we ever. The onus to catch these people lies soley with VM. If people want to brag about using such equipment then let them, personally I believe it says more about them than anything else.

Before people start handing judgement on to these individuals it's worth considering the "let he without sin cast the first stone" view.

From what I have been told, VM are seriously clamping down on illegal use of their equipment so I believe we should leave them to it.

Just to reiterate however, we will not permit the discussion of how to obtain services without paying for them. That includes describing how equipment should be modified, the name of specific boxes, links to websites which offer such services such as 'keys' etc and the invitation of PMs to 'find out more'.

Those who do any of this will find themselves booted off VM rather quickly.