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Chrysalis · 01-04-2008, 18:39

I am speaking as someone who is on adsl and has used cable in the past, how many people complaining of cable been poor value have actually used adsl or just assuming the grass is greener on the other side?

Cable can slow down due to congestion and STM.
Adsl can slow down due to congestion, shaping/throttling, slow synch speed, and BTs bras profiling system it is technically a worse product.

hokkers999 are you claiming that not everyone synchs at the speed they purchase on cable?

When I was on ntl I was in a bad student area it was very congested so believe me I know cable can perform badly but what I do know is I was able to download fast zooming along at 10mbit 3-5amish whilst on adsl my line maxes out at around 5.5mbit throughput meaning I can never get above 5.5mbit because the synch limits it.

Now upto 8mbit for Â£15 may sound super duper but the reality is at that price the product is more constrained and limited than what you get on cable, the few isps that perform well such as zen have caps. The very few isps that are fast and have no caps such as ukonline and BE will require you to be in a LLU area but these are not the norm what mainstream adsl isps such as tiscali and BT provide.

So I repeat if you buy 20mbit cable your modem will be synched at 20mbit and it is probable that at some point during the day (most likely 4am) that you can download at that speed whilst on adsl for millions of people the up to speed is not obtainable. (25% of lines capable of full 8meg synch only)

01-04-2008, 18:39	#139
Chrysalis VMNG300 FTW!!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leics Age: 33 Services: M+ TV 30mbit BB - VMNG300 Basic Phone Posts: 9,808	Re: VM admit that STM hours vary without notice I am speaking as someone who is on adsl and has used cable in the past, how many people complaining of cable been poor value have actually used adsl or just assuming the grass is greener on the other side? Cable can slow down due to congestion and STM. Adsl can slow down due to congestion, shaping/throttling, slow synch speed, and BTs bras profiling system it is technically a worse product. hokkers999 are you claiming that not everyone synchs at the speed they purchase on cable? When I was on ntl I was in a bad student area it was very congested so believe me I know cable can perform badly but what I do know is I was able to download fast zooming along at 10mbit 3-5amish whilst on adsl my line maxes out at around 5.5mbit throughput meaning I can never get above 5.5mbit because the synch limits it. Now upto 8mbit for Â£15 may sound super duper but the reality is at that price the product is more constrained and limited than what you get on cable, the few isps that perform well such as zen have caps. The very few isps that are fast and have no caps such as ukonline and BE will require you to be in a LLU area but these are not the norm what mainstream adsl isps such as tiscali and BT provide. So I repeat if you buy 20mbit cable your modem will be synched at 20mbit and it is probable that at some point during the day (most likely 4am) that you can download at that speed whilst on adsl for millions of people the up to speed is not obtainable. (25% of lines capable of full 8meg synch only)