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Old 04-06-2007, 23:19   #136
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Re: She tells it like it is.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis View Post

2 - examples of BT been broken up making things worse.

(a) an example on this forum where the installation cost for a BT line is now £150 and engineer vist costs have also gone up, this is a direct result of BT been broken up and BT now can no longer absorb so many costs as everything they do is now accounteable to ofcom.
Possibly true, although BT do take the mickey with some of their prices. For instance, I had to have my master socket replaced (no other work needed doing). Are you seriously suggesting that it cost them £120 (what they charged me) for an engineer to come and spend 15 minutes installing a new phone socket?

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(b) personal experience, when I needed to report a fault on my adsl I cannot goto BT directly and the engineers pretend they dont work for bt but for a company called openreach
They do work for Openreach, although Openreach is part of BT..

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(c) lack of investment and technology progression, the single biggest thing stopping a FTTH/P rollout right now is the fact BT is broken up and forced to unbundle its infrastructure to allow competitors to be in the market. This is an example of breaking up a natural monopoly been bad for the consumer as it has a social impact.
Actually, what is apparently stopping FTTH is that BT don't feel that we need the extra speed. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06...eed_wars_over/

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3 - cable dont have good coverage, not rocket science, if your coverage is limited then your potential customer base is limited and they have never really addressed instead choosing to spend money on other things such as buying out companies. To add to this they have left areas with analogue only services and then blame the ex analogue customers flocking to sky on sky themselves, SKY CANNOT BE BLAMED FOR VM's FAILURES.

Breaking up sky would likely be worse for the consumer it would only benefit competitors, and why are you so keen on VMs welfare, as a consumer if you think VM needs to improve change provider if you happy with VM why are you concerned for them just leave things be.

The over regulation in this country is getting too far fetched, VM have failed for a decade to make a profit whilst been babysitted by the regulators please tell me now why this would change if they got further help? they have failed because of bad management and strategies not because of sky.

You do realised that without the regulation in this country, we would probably have limited or no access to broadband (BT haven't exactly been co-operative when it comes to installing ADSL equipment). We would also have the highest phone charges in the world, and would possibly not have all the extra services BT offer (Caller ID, Voicemail, Call waiting etc). We wouldn't have any of that, as it is unlikely that the cable companies (or any competitors) would have survived.

Also, without the legal requirement to provide a phone service to every house, do you really think that BT wouldn't just close non-profitable areas of the network?
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