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Old 29-04-2007, 23:35   #24
Hex
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Re: Traffic Shaping Affecting All Tiers

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Originally Posted by Dawn Falcon View Post
No, Hex, that's my point. As I said, the math for the 2% of users hammering the service being the cause simply dosn't add up. This is purely about wanting to have a higher headline speed for the broadband service to attract customers, and not have to invest in infrastructure for it.
In an ideal world I'd agree with you, but I do believe it's more than 2%. Also if VM decided to upgrade the entire network to handle every connection it sold, they'd probably end up bankrupt, and we'd all have to go back to ADSL*shudders*

Sure shaping is a bit of an underhanded trick, but it is a necessary evil whilst they do upgrade the network (and they do, albeit rather slowly, piece by piece)

Well that's my take on it anyway.

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Originally Posted by Dawn Falcon View Post
Traffic shaping is cheaper than lighting cable. And Joe Blogs WILL notice the 200ms latency hit. It's like using a 56k modem again anytime traffic shaping goes on.
Having not been shaped, I cant deny this, but I can doubt it. My JB example was someone not even triggering the shaping. But even if it did, it should only shape down to 5mb, a far cry from 56k, and 200ms? Back when my NTL connection was shiny, new and only 600k it had lower latency than that, so where you got that kind of figure from I don't know.

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Originally Posted by marky View Post
So now we have spelling police
Spelling mistakes are fine, god knows I make plenty myself, but fine, I'll just go back to grumbling to myself about the corruption of our language. Just don't come running to me when match of the day starts calling the game "soccer" and so on and so forth, yada yada yada.... [/Rant]

Oh and don't take any of the above too seriously, It's just been one of those days
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