Cable Forum - View Single Post - UK telecoms companies not upgrading networks enough?

awibble · 17-04-2007, 07:43

Bandwidth has always been a bit of a con to me if you dont mine me saying.

You pay to connect to the internet, and with some companie you pay for what you use. So as the consumer you pay for every Mb that is transmitted to and from your computer.

Then as a webmaster you also have to pay for every Mb that is sent between your website and the customer.

So that means that 2 people are paying for the data.

Personally i feel that someone need to push quality over qunatity. At the moment the best reason to pay for 10Mb is because if you pay for 2, then on some networks, you will only get a realistic .5 So to get a good 4 most of the time, its worth getting 10+.

On BT lines, SDSL is much better in terms of quality, but home users dont want a Â£200 price tag for that quality.

At the same time, im sure that ntl:telewest business (i belive they havent rebranded to VM yet) also give a much better quality and much better ratios but the price im not sure of.

It would be great if someone would lay fiber door to door, so that everyone could in theory get Gigabit internet connections, but no one would want to pay the price. If i remember rightly its about Â£10/m can probably get that down to say Â£2/m in bulk.. maybe less... at 2000m (2km) that would be Â£4000 which in reality no one is going to want to pay. Even if you said they only had to pay for the 100m to the nearest roadside box, thats gonna be Â£200 Plus of course a Fiber based router, which im sure is a could of hundread... i would guess at the moment it would probably cost about Â£500 per house. Then remember that everyone will want it for Â£10 a month.. it would be 4 Years before the company that did it started to break even... Just on the cable.

BT need to be forced to upgrade their network, VM have a strong network, that will got upto 220mb i think, which at the moment is double what most servers on the net can handle, so not a major issue. So really if you think about it Virgin has a least looked after their networks over the years.

Because of the restrictions with the BT cables, i think BT will start to lower the price on SDSL and push the quality over quantity point. And thats when VM will be able to continue to grow as they can offer a much better quality system already.

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awibble cf.geek Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Slough Services: FreeView FreeSat SKY+ (6 Mix) BT Phone (comming soon) V+ XL - TV XL - PHONE XL - BB SKY-MOV Posts: 701	Re: UK telecoms companies not upgrading networks enough? Bandwidth has always been a bit of a con to me if you dont mine me saying. You pay to connect to the internet, and with some companie you pay for what you use. So as the consumer you pay for every Mb that is transmitted to and from your computer. Then as a webmaster you also have to pay for every Mb that is sent between your website and the customer. So that means that 2 people are paying for the data. Personally i feel that someone need to push quality over qunatity. At the moment the best reason to pay for 10Mb is because if you pay for 2, then on some networks, you will only get a realistic .5 So to get a good 4 most of the time, its worth getting 10+. On BT lines, SDSL is much better in terms of quality, but home users dont want a Â£200 price tag for that quality. At the same time, im sure that ntl:telewest business (i belive they havent rebranded to VM yet) also give a much better quality and much better ratios but the price im not sure of. It would be great if someone would lay fiber door to door, so that everyone could in theory get Gigabit internet connections, but no one would want to pay the price. If i remember rightly its about Â£10/m can probably get that down to say Â£2/m in bulk.. maybe less... at 2000m (2km) that would be Â£4000 which in reality no one is going to want to pay. Even if you said they only had to pay for the 100m to the nearest roadside box, thats gonna be Â£200 Plus of course a Fiber based router, which im sure is a could of hundread... i would guess at the moment it would probably cost about Â£500 per house. Then remember that everyone will want it for Â£10 a month.. it would be 4 Years before the company that did it started to break even... Just on the cable. BT need to be forced to upgrade their network, VM have a strong network, that will got upto 220mb i think, which at the moment is double what most servers on the net can handle, so not a major issue. So really if you think about it Virgin has a least looked after their networks over the years. Because of the restrictions with the BT cables, i think BT will start to lower the price on SDSL and push the quality over quantity point. And thats when VM will be able to continue to grow as they can offer a much better quality system already.