I guess it depends what area you're in & what they have left over, which will affect what they have in the van. If you're lucky it won't be a Pace 4010. I had no real complaints about it [other than the Guide being a bit slow] before the new VM software [black EPG], but since then it was crap. It's a bit early to judge my lovely new black V+ box [only had it about 4 hours

], but it certainly seems a bit more responsive & quicker on the menus. The only thing I'm not happy about that's specific to this box is that when you put it in standby there's a blue-green-ish glow around the buttons on the right side of the box [I sleep in the same room that my V+ is in]. Hopefully a later software update will either disable that or add an option to enable a user to disable it themselves.