AndyCAMBS, Thanks for replying to the message, l thought l was talking to myself, l always go for a bargain, l'm not trying to flog Sky, l thought that l would join the silly world of the farcical behaviour that is going on about Sky/VM, my relatives have Cable, and they have been told today, that they won't get a reduction in there bill from VM, as this will be invested in future programmes, if this isn't farcical l don't know what is. l still don't know what Virgin BB is.