03-06-2008, 12:03
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
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Originally Posted by JethroUK
if Ben has acknowledged his slip of the tongue - why can't you acknowledge his slip of the tongue
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I was actually trying to move past the argument over the definition of a single word, and back onto the topic.
I agree that my choice of words may have not been the best.
However in the end it is neither here nor there.
The difference between an offer than doesn't expire and one that expires so far in the future to not matter is exactly zero.
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03-06-2008, 13:35
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
I got a lifetime deal from the GPO in 1961 and still only pay 2/6d line rental.
That's the reality of what literally taking lifetime to mean lifetime would mean.  
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03-06-2008, 16:45
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
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Originally Posted by homealone
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VM speak - see! - brainwashed - you just can't help it
we are now talking about words (and their meanings) - we are not talking about VM's interpretations of them
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we have to agree to disagree ...
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while ever you are happy to be wrong - then i'm also happy for you to be wrong
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I was actually trying to move past the argument over the definition of a single word...
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well at least we agree on something - how about you clue homealone up on this so we can get back to the conversation
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03-06-2008, 16:59
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
I can't believe we are still arguing over this 
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03-06-2008, 17:07
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
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Originally Posted by JethroUK
VM speak - see! - brainwashed - you just can't help it
we are now talking about words (and their meanings) - we are not talking about VM's interpretations of them
while ever you are happy to be wrong - then i'm also happy for you to be wrong
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well at least we agree on something - how about you clue homealone up on this so we can get back to the conversation
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as soon as you post up the examples of the current 'lifetime' deals, I'll be happy to comply.
Unfortunately, rightly or wrongly, it is the VM interpretation of the words that apply to VM services, being pedantic about semantics will not change the reality of that situation.
The thing is JethroUK, all I have been doing is taking an apposite stance to your pedantry by replacing it with some of my own - I have no real interest in devolving all discussions down to interpretation of one or two words in any statements from Virgin Media - not when it won't change what is actually happening, but hey, you kept biting .....
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03-06-2008, 17:14
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
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... rightly or wrongly, it is the VM interpretation of the words...
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wrong in this case - we haven't been discussing VM in any way, shape or form for quite some time - so that's why you will always be wrong about this - you really need to read the thread before you post
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03-06-2008, 17:22
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
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Originally Posted by JethroUK
wrong in this case - we haven't been discussing VM in any way, shape or form for quite some time - so that's why you will always be wrong about this - you really need to read the thread before you post
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more pedantry, please read the OP, what else is the thread about if it isn't Virgin Media's interpretation of 'lifetime' ????
- are you saying you've gone off topic 
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03-06-2008, 17:40
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
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....what else is the thread about if it isn't Virgin Media's interpretation of 'lifetime' ????
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That's the topic - alas you haven't discussed it once
i'll remind you where you came in
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Originally Posted by JethroUK
does not expire = go on indefinately
Fact!!!
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your whole and entire contribution to this thread has been a futile and unsuccessful attempt to disprove this rock solid fact
it has obviously just dawned
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P.S. My last response to you as i think it's unfair to the OP
Last edited by JethroUK; 03-06-2008 at 17:43.
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03-06-2008, 19:43
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
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Originally Posted by JethroUK
That's the topic - alas you haven't discussed it once
i'll remind you where you came in
your whole and entire contribution to this thread has been a futile and unsuccessful attempt to disprove this rock solid fact
it has obviously just dawned
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P.S. My last response to you as i think it's unfair to the OP
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No, my entire contribution to this thread has been to wind you up, because you won't accept that no matter how you interpret the phraseology, there are no 'indefinite' deals offered by Virgin Media - no matter how many times you put 'fact' after your statements.
Arguing about what words mean does not change reality and by playing devils advocate I was trying to point that out, unfortunately you have been too bogged down in trying to prove me wrong to appreciate that.
BenMcr stated way back in the thread that no-one in VM was authorised to offer 'indefinite' deals, and none now exist - what the dictionary definitions of the words are is meaningless in that scenario, but you have had your irony detector turned off, unfortunately.
I agree this is circular & will also cease to discuss this point, my tongue was getting tired being stuck in my cheek all the time, anyway 
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03-06-2008, 21:35
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
Anyone ever race another car down the road - and the moment they realise you beat them - they pretend like they weren't racing after all
crops up time & time again in life
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03-06-2008, 21:55
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
Unlimited downloads anyone?
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03-06-2008, 22:25
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
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Anyone ever race another car down the road - and the moment they realise you beat them - they pretend like they weren't racing after all
crops up time & time again in life |
I think you forgot "Nah nah na nah nah....."
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03-06-2008, 22:40
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
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Anyone ever race another car down the road - and the moment they realise you beat them - they pretend like they weren't racing after all
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No - Seen kids do that though
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04-06-2008, 00:02
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
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I'm afraid because Jethro can't bash VM alone for this he won't be pursuing this issue with the same vigour. Shame.
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11-06-2008, 04:34
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Re: Not a lifetime offer
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Originally Posted by homealone
No, my entire contribution to this thread has been to wind you up, because you won't accept that no matter how you interpret the phraseology, there are no 'indefinite' deals offered by Virgin Media - no matter how many times you put 'fact' after your statements.
Arguing about what words mean does not change reality and by playing devils advocate I was trying to point that out, unfortunately you have been too bogged down in trying to prove me wrong to appreciate that.
BenMcr stated way back in the thread that no-one in VM was authorised to offer 'indefinite' deals, and none now exist - what the dictionary definitions of the words are is meaningless in that scenario, but you have had your irony detector turned off, unfortunately.
I agree this is circular & will also cease to discuss this point, my tongue was getting tired being stuck in my cheek all the time, anyway |
VM cannot even keep their promises with 12 month deals, so you must be right 
By the way, the definition of a word is the same for everyone.
Say I stand accused of the murder of somebody.
" No sir, I did not murder them, I expired their life "
By vm standards I should get off with it.
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