50c - poor excuse for a game
17-01-2006, 08:37
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50c - poor excuse for a game
I saw this played by a child the other day, and could not believe the level of wanton violence it portrayed. The main character seemed to be just about invulnerable and his targets seemed equally to require more shots to kill than I've ever seen before.
It seemed that the main aim was to have a bloodbath (every shot did seem to cause someone to part with a splash of it) with as many shots fired as possible, with each character having a seemingly unending supply of ammo.
The main character's reliance on a knife at close quarters and his obvious self-satisfaction at dispatching his opponent with a knife to the neck (with an unnatural billowing outpuring of blood) was thankfully mostly hidden by his other arm, but even so, there was no doubt the 'game' was all about glorifying the bloodshed.
I have seen other FPS games, yet this was the first time I felt disturbed by what I saw and felt compelled to take the disc out of the machine and snap it in half.
This 'game' should never have made it to market. With the fascination that kids have with (c)rap music and the braindead bling-bling frontmen, it only serves to make the accompanying guns & violence more acceptable in their eyes.
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17-01-2006, 08:54
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Re: 50c - poor excuse for a game
Surely its up to the parents to ensure their kids don't play 18 cert games.
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17-01-2006, 09:05
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Re: 50c - poor excuse for a game
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Originally Posted by gazzae
Surely its up to the parents to ensure their kids don't play 18 cert games.
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Of course it is.
But I am WAY over 18 and I find the 'game' disturbing! My point wasn't about it's (un)suitability for kids.
The whole concept is just plain wrong.
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17-01-2006, 09:36
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Re: 50c - poor excuse for a game
Ofcourse its up to parents to stop them buying and playing these games but as we all know, kid's will get hold of them. Its like cigarettes and alcohol, they will get their mates brother, or whoever to get hold of it for them.
So this is the game from that 50p rapper isnt it.
I just can't understand that scene at all. When I see them in music videos chanting about guns, their "hood", and they are surrouded by gold chains and girls, I just think...."Oh please, what a load of rubbish".
They definately do seem to want to glamorise gun crime..... I think one of the trailers for the game, said "get even" with a picture of a guy with a gun.
No wonder half the streets of America have people roaming around shooting each other.
I think something has to be done before too many kids fall into this violence or get shot.
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17-01-2006, 09:45
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Re: 50c - poor excuse for a game
50c is a poor excuse for a human being IMO
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17-01-2006, 10:13
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Re: 50c - poor excuse for a game
...all the more surprising considering he has been the victim of a violent shooting. You'd think he'd have learnt his lesson and would not attempt to glorify violence.
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17-01-2006, 10:21
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Re: 50c - poor excuse for a game
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...all the more surprising considering he has been the victim of a violent shooting. You'd think he'd have learnt his lesson and would not attempt to glorify violence.
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Tim Westwood thought he had gained street credibility through surviving his attack  , I guess Mr Cent thought the same.
Shame both of them didn't take the hint.
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17-01-2006, 10:29
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Re: 50c - poor excuse for a game
I wouldn't be surprised if Westwood had set his own attack up.
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17-01-2006, 11:17
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Tim Westwood thought he had gained street credibility through surviving his attack  , I guess Mr Cent thought the same.
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When you consider his film ("Get Rich or Die Tryin' ") and also this 'game', then it is all to clear that 28p (at today's exchange rate) thinks there is something heroic or glamorous about the whole gangsta scene.
What worries me is that the whole 'fashion' is being absorbed by youth all over the world, and considering that they mostly consider themselves invulnerable anyway, I suspect that it won't be long before they're doing as much as they can to immitate this 'cool' lifestyle.
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Shame both of them didn't take the hint.
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I suspect the hint wasn't of sufficient calibre to hit home.
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17-01-2006, 11:17
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Re: 50c - poor excuse for a game
as with all rappers its an image.
50c wouldnt make a game about cuddly little teddy bears getting lost in sweetie land would he?
If the game disturbs you that much dont buy it, avoid it. Dont allow your children to play it, its 18 cert anyway so you shouldnt be doing that anyway.
Most computer games offer an unreal level of violence, look at GTA series, especially GTA3 onwards attacking people with flamethrowers and chainsaws.
I understand you find it disturbing, but that doesnt mean others will. Its about tolerance, some people, myself included, dont find violence distrubing, I'm not a violent person normally, but I can be if I need to be. I have always played violent games, watched violent movies etc, yet I am not a villain.
Once again, I find myself very broadminded, I am rarely shocked by anything, There is only one thing I cannot tolerate and that is violence towards animals and women and children, but even then it does not shock me.
American culture is vastly different to ours, we seem to think that the US is rife with gun crime and murder, compared to the UK it probably is, but I doubt its as bad as the media would have us believe.
We just need to keep things in perspective and use our judgement, especially with video games and movies.
There is a huge adult market in video games, the power of the games machines is allowing for more and more realistic looking games. I dont think the indiustry would kill itself by only making games such as bust a move or tetris. I have very briefly worked in the games industry and found it highly surprising the amount of older devlopers that there are out there.
Years ago I remember a game getting banned on the amiga, it was called splatterhouse. It was released on megadrive though.
Remember the death wish movies???? Glorified murder????
what about Rambo? Robocop was pretty bloody for its time, hmmmm I spit on your grave got banned, as did last house on the left and they are just stupid.
It seems that all through time violence is part of the lives of children at some point, be it in a war, or the movies or now computer games, its only the unbalanced that re-enact it in reality. And I would imagine its fair to say that if it wasnt one game/movie it would be another that was blamed for it. Again blam is part an parcel of our culture, we always like to say ohhh such and such a person is causing this and such a person is causing our children to do this, when in reality its bad parenting.
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17-01-2006, 12:09
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Re: 50c - poor excuse for a game
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Originally Posted by timewarrior2001
<snip>..... Again blam is part an parcel of our culture, we always like to say ohhh such and such a person is causing this and such a person is causing our children to do this, when in reality its bad parenting.
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I totally agree with you on the final point you make. Nowadays we look for excuses on why our youth are going down irresponsible routes, often blaming the causes on music, film, video games, etc etc etc. The one think we don't allocate blame to is failing of parents. I think too many are too lazy nowadays and depend on 'society' to mould/bring up their kids. Take more responsibility and effort for your kids and they'll grow up fine.
On the subject on the 50cents game (which is rated an 18) if a kid is playing it aty home, then I'd say its the parent who's to blame, not 50cents. You wouldnt l;et your kids watch porn on NTL or an 18 rated film on sky movies so whats different about a game.
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17-01-2006, 12:50
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On the subject on the 50cents game (which is rated an 18) if a kid is playing it aty home, then I'd say its the parent who's to blame, not 50cents. You wouldnt l;et your kids watch porn on NTL or an 18 rated film on sky movies so whats different about a game.
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The point which you, and anyone else looking to blame parents, is missing is that even the 18 rating isn't enough.
This 'game' is a travesty that should never have been made.
And while I'm sure that there are people who are adult and intelligent enough not to be misled by something like this, as with anything else that should be restricted to responsible adults, it rarely is.
BTW - I'm not quite sure how any adult could even begin to condone this 'game'. It is inferior to even older FPS games and the content is crass. If they were indeed intelligent or responsible, they'd see it for the rubbish it is.
P.S. I'm actually not calling for a ban on this rubbish - I just find it unbelievable that anyone thought it worth making. Of course when there's money to be made, morals come no better than second place...
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17-01-2006, 13:00
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Re: 50c - poor excuse for a game
What is it you object to? The blood? Is it OK to kill people in games as long as there is no blood? Or are you against all games where the main focus is murder e.g Hitman. What about Mortal Kombat, was that a travesty as well?
Or are you just saying never mind the killing and blood, the game is just crap?
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17-01-2006, 18:58
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The point which you, and anyone else looking to blame parents, is missing is that even the 18 rating isn't enough.
This 'game' is a travesty that should never have been made.
And while I'm sure that there are people who are adult and intelligent enough not to be misled by something like this, as with anything else that should be restricted to responsible adults, it rarely is.
BTW - I'm not quite sure how any adult could even begin to condone this 'game'. It is inferior to even older FPS games and the content is crass. If they were indeed intelligent or responsible, they'd see it for the rubbish it is.
P.S. I'm actually not calling for a ban on this rubbish - I just find it unbelievable that anyone thought it worth making. Of course when there's money to be made, morals come no better than second place...
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Remember I said I worked briefly in the game industry???? Remember BREED???? Yeah well nuff said, people willing to pay money, developers having to pay bills. The game probably is crap, but again its not the only one.
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18-01-2006, 16:59
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Re: 50c - poor excuse for a game
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What is it you object to? The blood? Is it OK to kill people in games as long as there is no blood? Or are you against all games where the main focus is murder e.g Hitman. What about Mortal Kombat, was that a travesty as well?
Or are you just saying never mind the killing and blood, the game is just crap?
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50 cents is getting bad press at the moment, his advert was banned for promoting gun culture (maybe because he is a black rapper and his music is not liked by many). Thing is this is not the first film or game of its kind, and wont be the last. Will we have the same reaction everytime theres a film poster with someone in it carrying a gun? or robbing a bank? Correct me if Im wrong but didnt Kill Bill poster feature Uma Thurman carrying a samurtai sword. If so i didnt hear much criticism then, and stabbings are more prevalent in society today then gun shots.
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