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Old 15-03-2006, 23:04   #1
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Anybody good with Gas here? CORGI???

Hi All,
I am about to get a new kitchen fitted in a couple of weeks for which im getting the recommended locals in to do for me.

However as part of my kitchen im getting a Gas hob to replace my existing electrical one. At the back of my cooker (see picture) there is a pipe which i hope to hell is a Gas pipe and i think i need to get it fitted with a bayonet connection.

The electrical stuff next to it is getting moved as part of the deal.

BUT - does anybody know how i would go about getting this done? Or have a rough idea of the cost?

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Old 16-03-2006, 00:48   #2
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Re: Anybody good with Gas here? CORGI???

Hi TBR, looking at it I can't see it being a problem, yes you will need a Corgi registered plumber, if your gonna do the job right, with gas your better off doing it right for obvious reasons. As you say, your gonna need a couple of fittings, the plumber will have a source for these, as for cost, wouldn't have a clue but wouldn't have thought it would be telephone numbers, just hope that the pipes only blanked off there and hasn't been disconnected elsewhere, should be half hours work.

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Old 16-03-2006, 01:27   #3
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Re: Anybody good with Gas here? CORGI???

That is a gas pipe. Fitting the proper bayonet to it, and indeed even installing the hose to the cooker, must only be done by a CORGI registered fitter. Any one else touching the gas supply is commiting an offence and potentially, if they get it wrong, could cause a gas leak. Make sure they issue a gas test and safety certificate at the end.

Additionally, Part P of the Building Regulations, you need a properly qualified electrician to do anything socket moves / addition. wiring changes in a kitchen. If you do it yourself, or use an inadequately qualified electrician you can get the loacl building control officer to approve it (for a fee). Easier to use an electrician who must issue a completion certificate and register his work with the local building control autority.
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Re: Anybody good with Gas here? CORGI???

Thanks guys, just knowing for sure its a gas pipe is a relief, i will look into getting the CORGI fitter today!
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Old 16-03-2006, 10:21   #5
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Re: Anybody good with Gas here? CORGI???

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That is a gas pipe. Fitting the proper bayonet to it, and indeed even installing the hose to the cooker, must only be done by a CORGI registered fitter. Any one else touching the gas supply is commiting an offence
This is not strictly true - I can fit my own cooker and install the hose. But if I fitted your cooker/hose then I'd have to be a CORGI fitter or I'd be breaking the law.

So if someone is going to do gas work for you, then they have to be CORGI registered.
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and potentially, if they get it wrong, could cause a gas leak. Make sure they issue a gas test and safety certificate at the end.
Considering you don't want your house to blow up, getting it done by a registered installer is a good idea.
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Additionally, Part P of the Building Regulations, you need a properly qualified electrician to do anything socket moves / addition.
Not read a copy of the </sharp intake of breath> Bulding Regs recently, so can't really say, but I would have thought that in that case, as with gas, it applies only to someone doing the work for you - not the homeowner themselves.
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Re: Anybody good with Gas here? CORGI???

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Additionally, Part P of the Building Regulations, you need a properly qualified electrician to do anything socket moves / addition.
Not read a copy of the </sharp intake of breath> Bulding Regs recently, so can't really say, but I would have thought that in that case, as with gas, it applies only to someone doing the work for you - not the homeowner themselves.
Definitely incorrect, Building Regs apply to all work, including that of a DIYer. link to the full Approved Document
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Re: Anybody good with Gas here? CORGI???

Corgi = Jobs for the boys..

having had around 7 corgi chaps round ive ended up redoing what they do as it leaked or didnt work properly but heh i have a certificate signed by some chap who should know what hes doing so it keeps my lady off my back as she worries about such things.
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Old 16-03-2006, 16:34   #8
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Re: Anybody good with Gas here? CORGI???

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Definitely incorrect, Building Regs apply to all work, including that of a DIYer. link to the full Approved Document
But not all work is required to be done by a trained professional or to a specific standard.

I've had a quick read of that, and there's only 2 mentions of DIY, and that is in respect of work that requires inspection and/or notification.

I don't think moving a socket is either.
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Thanks guys, just knowing for sure its a gas pipe is a relief, i will look into getting the CORGI fitter today!
The shop selling you the hob should be able to recommend someone. More to the point they should offer their own fitting service!

Just make sure, if you are having the kitchen fitted first and separately from the hob, that the pipe is still accessible for the person who needs to fit your hob to it.
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Re: Anybody good with Gas here? CORGI???

One of the guys doing the install is CORGI apparently, apparently i asked them about it when i originally spoke to them about the job but i must have forgot i discussed that part with them.

So its all in hand thank goodness.
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Re: Anybody good with Gas here? CORGI???

From April 2005 you will need a Declaration of Safety Certifcate from Corgi for any new installations, this will then be included in the Homebuyers/sellers kit.
The Corgi installer will notify Corgi of the installation and Corgi issue the certificate, not the plumber. Not all plumbers seem to be aware of the Corgi regulations, mine told me I didn't need one, so complained to Corgi who then put him right, possibly by telling him that he risked losing his registration if he did not comply.
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Re: Anybody good with Gas here? CORGI???

Cost wise, we had to have a new pipe run fitted from the cooker to the meter box outside and it cost £180 a while back. But that is London prices.
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Re: Anybody good with Gas here? CORGI???

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This is not strictly true - I can fit my own cooker and install the hose.

This is not true either.....

The Gas Safety Regs 1998 Clearly State....


No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so.


Which means you must have had some sort of training to work on gas pipework.
As soon as you break into the gas pipework, you should be qualified to do so.
Obviously you can go to ur local B&Q and buy a cooker or fire...
So who is gonna stop you
The only way they can enforce this os by making the person buying the
goods show their CORGI card.

Just on a side note...
I am CORGI registered but only when Im working for the company I work for.
At weekends I am not CORGI registered
How does that work
I must forget everything when I finish work
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Re: Anybody good with Gas here? CORGI???

Just as a help
It would be better to try and find the isolation valve BEFORE the fitter gets there, You never know it might need replacing as well
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I know exactly where that is and its fine.
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