Hdtv

kronas · 27-10-2005, 01:40

im not looking to buy one but its handy to know for the future.... right this HDTV compatable set is this really set for the next generation of broadcasting ?

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=97158

or is this merely one of those dixons/currys 'castoffs' which are not infact HDTV viewable for UK broadcast when they come in to play ?

Wicked_and_Crazy · 27-10-2005, 07:24

it says HDTV on the spec

if your not going to buy one in the next year of so you have nothing to worry about

kronas · 27-10-2005, 18:37

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Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy

it says HDTV on the spec

if your not going to buy one in the next year of so you have nothing to worry about

well i was thinking about upgrading my pc, but you see a HDTV would go great with NTL's PVR service, if it works

keithwalton · 27-10-2005, 19:18

I'd go for no its a con, because its resolution is 852x480.
considering the current uk broadcasts are in the order of 720x576 that isnt high definition!
As even the american standards are 1920x1024 (1024i) and 1280x720 (720i/p)
They call it compatible because its got the plugs for a hdtv device on it (Component (Y/Pb/Pr)) but it wont display at full resolution

hth

kronas · 27-10-2005, 19:30

i thought so, so its best to check the resolution it supports before making a decision ?

keithwalton · 27-10-2005, 19:38

Yup, they can call it hdtv ready / compatible if its got the physical connector on it to accept the signal from the decoder box. Not many actually display all the information in the picture it seems

kronas · 27-10-2005, 19:49

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Originally Posted by keithwalton

Yup, they can call it hdtv ready / compatible if its got the physical connector on it to accept the signal from the decoder box. Not many actually display all the information in the picture it seems

thanks, i assume its best to get one with 720 and 1080 support either P or I, is it possible to input a progressive signal on an interlacing feed ?

Wicked_and_Crazy · 27-10-2005, 21:00

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Originally Posted by keithwalton

I'd go for no its a con, because its resolution is 852x480.
considering the current uk broadcasts are in the order of 720x576 that isnt high definition!
As even the american standards are 1920x1024 (1024i) and 1280x720 (720i/p)
They call it compatible because its got the plugs for a hdtv device on it (Component (Y/Pb/Pr)) but it wont display at full resolution

hth

huh?? my current TV can cope with 720i but it cant cope with HD AFAIK
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Originally Posted by kronas

thanks, i assume its best to get one with 720 and 1080 support either P or I, is it possible to input a progressive signal on an interlacing feed ?

all TV's are interlaced arent they? I know my TV Eng knowledge is 10+yrs out of date but that was my understanding of the difference between a tv and a monitor, tv's were interlaced but montors refresh every scan line every scan

Dave Stones · 27-10-2005, 21:02

tru HD ready tvs will have either a DVI port that supports HDCP, or a HDMI port. Component connections are the bodge-way of doing it... of course if the resolution is high enough, *technically* it supports HD, but as soon as any encrypted channels etc come along, you wouldn't get them...

Hom3r · 27-10-2005, 21:22

There are going to be a lot of people out there who will buy a new HD ready TV that will not display a HD picture because it doesn't have the right ports on it, I'm even confused by it.

Our TV is on the way out I think but I wont look at replacing it until it either dies or I know what exactly to look for.

After all Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£2000+ is a lot of ca$h for a TV.

homealone · 27-10-2005, 22:04

afaik if it hasn't got hdmi it isn't fully compatible

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

<edit>credit to Dave Stones for what he has already said

keithwalton · 28-10-2005, 01:41

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Originally Posted by Wicked_and_Crazy

huh?? my current TV can cope with 720i but it cant cope with HD AFAIK
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all TV's are interlaced arent they? I know my TV Eng knowledge is 10+yrs out of date but that was my understanding of the difference between a tv and a monitor, tv's were interlaced but montors refresh every scan line every scan

Depends on how your defineing 720i, the american way that represents the vertical scan resolution. 720i in there definition is 1280x720.
Current uk broadcasts are either 768x576 or 720x576. this could be where your getting the 720 from on your tv.

Nearly all hdtv's are either plasma or lcd screens both of which can handle a progressive scan easily enough. The difference between tv's and monitors these days is nigh. pretty much all plasma / lcd screens will run off a pc as well as a tv tuner / stb. It's digital technology for you

**Matt D** · 30-10-2005, 00:32

I do find it quite funny that Dixons et al are really pushing so-called "HD ready TVs" even though noone will have any need for them for at least a year...

Don't see the point in spending all that money now...better to wait 'till there's actually a need for an HDTV, as surely they'll be cheaper by then.

Then again...I'd quite like one for the XBox 360 in December...

**Stephen** · 30-10-2005, 01:01

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Originally Posted by Matt D

I do find it quite funny that Dixons et al are really pushing so-called "HD ready TVs" even though noone will have any need for them for at least a year...

Don't see the point in spending all that money now...better to wait 'till there's actually a need for an HDTV, as surely they'll be cheaper by then.

Then again...I'd quite like one for the XBox 360 in December...

Well I am just going to use my TFT monitor as it can handle the HD resolutions, all I need to buy is the x360 HD vga cable.

Neil · 08-11-2005, 10:00

BBC HD coming: http://technology.guardian.co.uk/new...636678,00.html