Faster than the speed of light?Update...

[Maggy J]

And how is this going to make a difference to my life?Will I ever be able to go back and give myself a kick up the arse when I'm drinking in the student bar and get me to rethink my chosen career?

[idi banashapan]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

And how is this going to make a difference to my life?

everything's not you!

it's about advancing human kind's understanding of physics. it will inevitably lead to massive things, some of which may be beyond our current thinking of what is possible at this time. true, you or I may not see the results of such knowledge in our lifetimes, but it truly is a massive breakthrough.

[downquark1]

Don't want to get ahead of myself, but there are reports they're testing a loose cable that they believe caused the mismeasurement.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by downquark1

Don't want to get ahead of myself, but there are reports they're testing a loose cable that they believe caused the mismeasurement.

pppffffffffppppp

[downquark1]

Originally Posted by danielf

pppffffffffppppp

I'm entirely serious: http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencein...es-faster.html

But they've not announced it officially yet.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by downquark1

I'm entirely serious: http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencein...es-faster.html

But they've not announced it officially yet.

I know you are. But 'loose cable' sounds like such a mundane and daft excuse for a dodgy measurement in a 7.5 billion Euros physics experiment. Seriously, you'd have thought that systems would be in place that would expose any such faults if measurement error can threaten to undermine some of the core concepts of physics.

[idi banashapan]

I'd have thought it would cause the delay to appear longer, not quicker! but then, there's a reason I don't work at CERN!

[downquark1]

Ok, now an official statement says they are investigating two possible faults, one which would have led to an underestimation and one which would have led to an other estimation.

The good news is they can use the old "blame the engineer" excuse.

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by idi banashapan

I'd have thought it would cause the delay to appear longer, not quicker! but then, there's a reason I don't work at CERN!

If it's loose on the timing side of the measurement then the clock will appear slow compared to what they're timing..

It's as though you breaking the sound barrier in your car and for you to realise that the speedo is over-reading by 1000000% It doesn't make the car any slower or faster than a standard car

[Maggy J]

Maybe the problem is much more simple in origin..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IgF6...&feature=share

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Maybe the problem is much more simple in origin..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IgF6...&feature=share

[Cobbydaler]

Now shown to be 'only' going at the speed of light:

An experiment to repeat a test of the speed of subatomic particles known as neutrinos has found that they do not travel faster than light.

Results announced in September suggested that neutrinos can exceed light speed, but were met with scepticism as that would upend Einstein's theory of relativity.

A test run by a different group at the same laboratory has now clocked them travelling at precisely light speed.

Link

[boroboi]

And they went through all that trouble with making a Horizon episode too. Idiots.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler

Now shown to be 'only' going at the speed of light:


Link

That's assuming no measurement error of course

[Maggy J]

http://www.asiantribune.com/news/201...ight-after-all

Einstein Triumphs; CERN Retracts – nothing travels faster than light, after all