The Iphone thread - Page 6

**Matt D** · 24-09-2007, 18:17

Why not move to T-Mobile, & get unlimited data, but also get far more minutes & texts?

That's what I've done for my soon-to-arrive N95.

The O2 iPhone tariff is a joke.

**Stephen** · 24-09-2007, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D

Why not move to T-Mobile, & get unlimited data, but also get far more minutes & texts?

That's what I've done for my soon-to-arrive N95.

The O2 iPhone tariff is a joke.

I also have the N95 on T-Mobile with their unlimited data. Its really great.

That fact the you need to get an 18month contract and data costs per month have really put me off the iphone.

dragon · 24-09-2007, 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D

Why not move to T-Mobile, & get unlimited data, but also get far more minutes & texts?

That's what I've done for my soon-to-arrive N95.

The O2 iPhone tariff is a joke.

I have the WNW+ tarrif with the usb modem on t-mobile
its not unlimited its 3gb

Although I did just find out i also get unlimited use of their UK hotpots
300mins on the bt openzone Uk hotspots
and 300mins on t-mobile hotspots across europe and the USA

Looks like i'm sorted for wi-fi hotspots then

**Matt D** · 24-09-2007, 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthYoda

I also have the N95 on T-Mobile with their unlimited data. Its really great.

That fact the you need to get an 18month contract and data costs per month have really put me off the iphone.

Yeah, that & all the missing features

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon

I have the WNW+ tarrif with the usb modem on t-mobile
its not unlimited its 3gb

Although I did just find out i also get unlimited use of their UK hotpots
300mins on the bt openzone Uk hotspots
and 300mins on t-mobile hotspots across europe and the USA

Looks like i'm sorted for wi-fi hotspots then

OK, "unlimited (subject to FUP)"

Anyone know what the actual usage limit will be for O2's "unlimited" data plan for the iPhone etc.?

**Russ B** · 24-09-2007, 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D

OK, "unlimited (subject to FUP)"

Sorry to be pedantic but it's not even that

The basic jobbie is £7.50 and has a cap at 1gb per month.

WnW Plus is £12.50 and is set at 3gb but you can use the phone as a modem and can use messenger

WnW Max is £20 (ish) and you get 10gb and allows all the above plus VoIP.

**Matt D** · 24-09-2007, 23:19

LOL, I know.

I've gone for the standard WnW.

£7.50 for "unlimited" (1GB cap) is still better than £5 for 4MB or £10 "unlimited"* with O2.

And £37.5 for flext35 + WnW is still better value IMO than £35 O2 iPhone tariff with 200 mins + 200 texts + "unlimited" 2.5G data use.

EDIT: * Hmm, from looking at the O2 site, I'm not so sure about the alleged "£10 unlimited data bolt on"... the website clearly says you only get 20MB for £10/month... unless the "unlimited" bolt-on I was offered was solely a retentions offer.

dragon · 24-09-2007, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D

LOL, I know.

I've gone for the standard WnW.

£7.50 for "unlimited" (1GB cap) is still better than £5 for 4MB or £10 "unlimited" with O2.

And £37.5 for flext35 + WnW is still better value IMO than £35 O2 iPhone tariff with 200 mins + 200 texts + "unlimited" 2.5G data use.

do o2 actually have a uk edge network anyway?

**Matt D** · 24-09-2007, 23:38

They're only just adding EDGE now, apparently:

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/0...moves-to-edge/

jonifen · 25-09-2007, 01:16

To be honest, the iPhone is no better than many of the phones available already.
I personally would prefer an N95 than an iPhone... Infact, for what I can do on my K800i (with 2Gb M2 card), I'd sooner have that than the iPhone!

People will only buy it because "it has an Apple logo on it... it must be good!"

Like Matt D said... Why not go with a normal network and get a better deal. The iPhone deal on o2 is a complete rip-off. o2 are only doing the iPhone because they know that people will want it just because it has the same apple logo on it as their iPod.

Likewise I'd prefer a Creative Zen or even an MS Zune than an iPod. Why be restricted to Apple's formats (Quicktime etc) when there are alternatives which are fully DivX compatible without needing iTunes (POS software if ever I've seen it) to copy the stuff over.

dragon · 25-09-2007, 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonifen

To be honest, the iPhone is no better than many of the phones available already.
I personally would prefer an N95 than an iPhone... Infact, for what I can do on my K800i (with 2Gb M2 card), I'd sooner have that than the iPhone!

People will only buy it because "it has an Apple logo on it... it must be good!"

Like Matt D said... Why not go with a normal network and get a better deal. The iPhone deal on o2 is a complete rip-off. o2 are only doing the iPhone because they know that people will want it just because it has the same apple logo on it as their iPod.

Likewise I'd prefer a Creative Zen or even an MS Zune than an iPod. Why be restricted to Apple's formats (Quicktime etc) when there are alternatives which are fully DivX compatible without needing iTunes (POS software if ever I've seen it) to copy the stuff over.

I was tempted by an older ipod if i can find one with a decent battery
Probably because the rockbox firmware works on the older ones and then it becomes anything but limited when it comes to formats...
http://www.rockbox.org/

Installing EDGE seems a bit silly when theres HSDPA about which just leaves EDGE standing in terms of thoughput

**Chris** · 25-09-2007, 14:22

I have a 1st-gen iPod, bought less than 3 months after UK launch, and it still goes for 6 or 7 hours on a full charge.

But it's not for sale.

SMHarman · 25-09-2007, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragon

I was tempted by an older ipod if i can find one with a decent battery

You just need to replace them. My 3G 40Gb iPod goes for a good 8+ hours on the new battery. Replacing it was not hard, the most difficult part was popping the case open with the plastic chopstick they supply.

punky · 25-09-2007, 18:47

Couple of important pieces of news:

iPhone update WILL brick unlocked phones.

and

Apple may break law over failing to honour unlocked phone's warrantees.

**Matt D** · 07-10-2007, 23:26

And so, the fair usage limit for O2's iPhone tariff is....

200MB per month.

ROFL.

This fits with the new O2 data bolt-ons:

http://www.o2.co.uk/mobilestariffs/t...umerdatabolton

Quote:

O2 Web Bolt On gives you unlimited* browsing through your phone for £7.50 per month

O2 Web Max gives you unlimited* browsing with a data card for £30 per month

* A fair use of 200MB per month applies to the O2 Web Bolt On. A fair use of 3GB per month applies to O2 Web Max.

OK, so it's better than before (4MB for £5, 20MB for £10), but still a joke.

Hah.

£7.50 Web 'n' Walk with T-Mobile... 1GB per month.

£12.50 Web 'n' Walk Plus with T-Mobile... 3GB per month.

£22.50 (?) Web 'n' Walk Max with T-Mobile... 10GB per month.

I think even "3" have good data rates too.

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Oh, & once your 18 month contract is up with O2, you have to *stay* with O2 on a month by month rolling contract if you want to continue using the iPhone as a phone.

bopdude · 07-10-2007, 23:30

Mmmmmm, all bad news, even before that, I had / have almost decided to go for the N95, not 100% sure yet, but sure enough that it won't be an Iphone, too many negatives and not enough possitives