07-07-2003, 08:34
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But learning all the time
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BB Speeds
Before I contact CS I thought I'd ask you guys. Why with the 600 Mb service should I get DL speeds of 515 (very good) but UL speeds of 126 (half of what other ISP's provide)
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07-07-2003, 08:37
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cf.geek
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Because on NTL's 600 service Max download is 600 and max upload is 128.
HTH
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07-07-2003, 08:56
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I only get 13k upload if I'm lucky
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07-07-2003, 10:53
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cf.mega poster
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NTL offer a contention based service, with a maximum Throuhput of 600kbs (On the 600 Service). Your download looks ok, Your upload also Looks ok.
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07-07-2003, 11:26
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Grrrrr
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Yes as the others have said..
NTL's "midrange" service (600k) gives you 600kbps download and 128kbps upload.
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07-07-2003, 11:55
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I asked this in another thrad but got no joy ...
Could someone tell a maths illiterate (i.e. me) what speed, in kb/sec, I should see in my download manager if I am achieving full speed from my 600k connection as I download a file from a webpage?
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07-07-2003, 12:02
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Quote:
Originally posted by towny
I asked this in another thrad but got no joy ...
Could someone tell a maths illiterate (i.e. me) what speed, in kb/sec, I should see in my download manager if I am achieving full speed from my 600k connection as I download a file from a webpage?
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550-600kb/s (i think)
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07-07-2003, 12:11
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ramrod
550-600kb/s (i think)
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Most of the time I get 65 - 70 kb/sec, except mid-evening when it's often 35-ish.
But the other day I suddenly got 85-90 while downloading a file of about 5mb.
I've no idea what's normal.
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07-07-2003, 12:17
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cf.mega pornstar
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Quote:
Originally posted by towny
Most of the time I get 65 - 70 kb/sec, except mid-evening when it's often 35-ish.
But the other day I suddenly got 85-90 while downloading a file of about 5mb.
I've no idea what's normal.
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I think download manager (Mac right?) shows KB (kilobytes) rather than kb (kilobits). Since one KB equals 8 kb 70KB/sec equals 560 kb/sec. That sounds about right for the 600 service.
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07-07-2003, 12:20
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Quote:
Originally posted by danielf
I think download manager (Mac right?) shows KB (kilobytes) rather than kb (kilobits). Since one KB equals 8 kb 70KB/sec equals 560 kb/sec. That sounds about right for the 600 service.
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Correct, it's a Mac with osx, and download managers in both IE 5.2 and Apple's own Safari 1.0 both report speeds in KB. It's the non-decimal nature of these things that pickles my poor noggin.
Thanks for clearing that up!
EDIT - Is it technically possible for me to get a speed faster than I have subscribed for? My download maintained speeds between 85-90KB/sec for a couple of minutes the other day, which equates to something like 680-720k bandwidth.
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07-07-2003, 12:23
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cf.mega pornstar
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Quote:
Originally posted by towny
Correct, it's a Mac with osx, and download managers in both IE 5.2 and Apple's own Safari 1.0 both report speeds in KB. It's the non-decimal nature of these things that pickles my poor noggin.
Thanks for clearing that up!
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I agree, it is confusing to say the least.
Edit: Yes, you can get higher speeds occasionally. It's variable. Sometimes it's a bit faster, sometimes a bit slower.
Edit again: when in doubt, you can always do a speedtest. Have a look at www.pcpitstop.com. Some people also recommend Robin Walker's site (see NTHW home)
Last edited by danielf; 07-07-2003 at 12:28.
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07-07-2003, 12:36
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[NTHW] pc clan
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Yes pcpitstop is very good
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07-07-2003, 12:50
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cf.mega poster
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Quote:
Originally posted by towny
Correct, it's a Mac with osx, and download managers in both IE 5.2 and Apple's own Safari 1.0 both report speeds in KB. It's the non-decimal nature of these things that pickles my poor noggin.
Thanks for clearing that up! 
EDIT - Is it technically possible for me to get a speed faster than I have subscribed for? My download maintained speeds between 85-90KB/sec for a couple of minutes the other day, which equates to something like 680-720k bandwidth.
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What were you downloading from?.. IE, Or P2P? IE usually shows a higher download rate during the first couple of seconds, while it calculates stuff.
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07-07-2003, 12:56
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Quote:
Originally posted by Steve_NTL
What were you downloading from?.. IE, Or P2P? IE usually shows a higher download rate during the first couple of seconds, while it calculates stuff.
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It was a piece of free software from a website I can't remember offhand, d/l'd using the Safari web browser. It maintained a speed varying between 85 & 90 KB/sec for well over a minute, until the download was complete.
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09-07-2003, 13:07
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The pen or the sword?
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Quote:
Originally posted by towny
Most of the time I get 65 - 70 kb/sec, except mid-evening when it's often 35-ish.
But the other day I suddenly got 85-90 while downloading a file of about 5mb.
I've no idea what's normal.
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What it boils down to is how many users are on the URL at the time you go on it. As someone also said a lot depends on the time you go on as well, i.e. the yanks in bed!!
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