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[philip.j.fry]

Originally Posted by lemarsh

Above Link not working - just for info.

Don't worry, it's just the remnant of threads getting merged.

Originally Posted by lemarsh

However, a 30 second commercial would, I believe, see thew quick decline in that site. Also, what allows someone to 'force' someone to pay for it (i.e. Dial-Up costs).

Well they are saying that there will be a link to click so you can skip the vid, but I imagine it will quite inaccesible.

Originally Posted by lemarsh

And then you can see the next step - where companies will then take it a little bit further - 40 seconds, 50 seconds, a minute (after all, what is an additional 10 seconds they will say each time).

Trouble is, Microsoft are involved - so looks like the best chance of Netscpae to re-impose itself (remember when it dominated the browser market - and no one had heard (or wanted) explorer)

This is what I don't understand. They say that it will work on any platform without the need for any additional donwloads, just how do you go about piping a video feed into a browser? I don't see it as possible, and surely if it is then it's a huge security risk. More likely it's going to be some IE only piece of trash. So hopefully you a right and the market will shift back towards netscape/mozilla which IMO are far superior browsers.

This has got to be the most stupid idea I have ever heard !!!

I will avoid sites with this content like this - In fact I will block there IP at the firewall. Flashing adverts and pup up's consume enough bandwidth as it is. What the hell is going to happen when video starts apearing ??

Who is going tp pay for the extra bandwidth needed for this. In the company I am working for there are hundreds of internet users and our pipes get blocked up at lunch times ect at the moment. Why should we pay for bigger pipes ??



Stupid - pathetic - waste of time - lame brained idea !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stuart C]

Originally Posted by lemarsh

Trouble is, Microsoft are involved - so looks like the best chance of Netscpae to re-impose itself (remember when it dominated the browser market - and no one had heard (or wanted) explorer)

Mozilla will have to pull it's finger out. Netscape is effectively dead, as AOL stopped development after 7.

Originally Posted by phillip.j.fry

This is what I don't understand. They say that it will work on any platform without the need for any additional donwloads, just how do you go about piping a video feed into a browser? I don't see it as possible, and surely if it is then it's a huge security risk. More likely it's going to be some IE only piece of trash. So hopefully you a right and the market will shift back towards netscape/mozilla which IMO are far superior browsers.

Interesting that they claim it is cross platform as it requires Windows Media Player 9 & the Microsoft Java Virtual Machine.

Now, WMP 9 is only available on Windows and Mac OSX (and isn't fully supported on OSX). What about the various linux, Free BSD and the various flavours of Unix?

The Microsoft JVM only works on Windows, and is no longer available (XP SP1a and, AFAIK, Windows 2000 SP4 remove it) due to the recent legal action between Sun and Microsoft.

As to the idea. I think it stinks. Even though I currently have a 1 Meg connection at home, I object to having to wait 30 seconds to go to a page, and, TBH, I don't see why I should have to click a close button.

Still, it should be easy enough to block the ads at the firewall.

One last thing, I tried the demo videos (which should be perfect, they are trying to sell the technology as having perfect reproduction), and even on my link at work (which is fast enough that I can download a full Mandrake Linux distro in about 12 minutes), they took far to long to download.

Hopefully the company will disappear into oblivion..

[Richard M]

Originally Posted by scastle

Mozilla will have to pull it's finger out. Netscape is effectively dead, as AOL stopped development after 7.

Please, please, read the following article:
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/04/04/index4a.html

[Stuart C]

Originally Posted by Richard M

Please, please, read the following article:
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/04/04/index4a.html

Don't get me wrong, I love Mozilla products (I do use Thunderbird and Firebird regularly). What I meant when I said that Mozilla needed to pull it's finger out is that it needs to work to ensure it's products are installed on as many machines as possible. Microsoft have a *huge* advantage here (IE is probably on 99.9% of Windows desktops). Your average punter (non computer literate) will usually use IE as it's already there and he/she doesn't need to download or install extra software.

Posted from http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/...l?tw=authoring
and the new version of IE for Windows won't be out until the company releases its next operating system, Longhorn, in 2005 or 2006 (or, knowing Microsoft, perhaps even deep into 2007).

That may be when the next MAJOR version is out, but there is a new version of IE (complete with pop-up blocking) in Windows XP SP2.

[Richard M]

Originally Posted by scastle

Don't get me wrong, I love Mozilla products (I do use Thunderbird and Firebird regularly). What I meant when I said that Mozilla needed to pull it's finger out is that it needs to work to ensure it's products are installed on as many machines as possible. Microsoft have a *huge* advantage here (IE is probably on 99.9% of Windows desktops).

That's just one more reason to hate M$...

Originally Posted by scastle

That may be when the next MAJOR version is out, but there is a new version of IE (complete with pop-up blocking) in Windows XP SP2.

Ooh, popup blocking?
That'll get the "average punters" excited then.

[Stuart C]

Originally Posted by Richard M

Ooh, popup blocking?
That'll get the "average punters" excited then.

There are other features as well, but nothing major, and nothing too exciting..

I personally prefer Firebird. Only use IE when I need to (our Admin site at work needs IE because the authentication available in Netscape at the time didn't work well enough for our needs).