Firefox 7 ... Faster start up.

joglynne · 22-09-2011, 14:32

I have been using the beta version of FF7 for sometime now and as the finished version is due out next week I have been having a look around to see what glitches have been sorted out as I have a recurrent hiccup when I close tags.

Anyhow I came across this Ghacks Technology Newsletter in my travels which talks about a way to speed the start up of FF7. I don't understand what it's all about but thought it could be of interest to members using FireFox 7.

Sorry if it's showing you how to suck eggs guys.

http://www.ghacks.net/2011/09/21/mak...er-on-windows/

which links to :-
http://blog.mozilla.com/tglek/2011/0...-start-faster/

Welshchris · 25-09-2011, 03:10

I had problems with the beta version locking up if i was viewing a page with a lot of thumbnails or animated gifs.

apparently tho its due to be released in 2 days time...

http://onsoftware.en.softonic.com/fi...d-september-27

Welshchris · 28-09-2011, 22:32

well im now using the latest release which is Firefox 7.

I have found tho i dont know if its a glitch for just me or for them but i have found that ur able to use 6 tabs fine. U can open a 7th tab and it will refuse outright to load a page on there. I checked how much memory it was using in Task Manager and it was just over 224k.

raging bull · 28-09-2011, 22:40

Must be a glitch Chris, opened 8+forum view 234k just to test.
Not that I am in a habit of opening that many tabs.

Welshchris · 28-09-2011, 22:50

i posted on facebook asking people to test the same thing for me and so far ive had one reply saying they also have the same issue, so im wondering if it could be some other software conflicting and causing it.

I dont think its a plugin as he doesnt have same plugins as i do.

raging bull · 28-09-2011, 22:57

Will have to pass on that, all I can say is it's certainly eating up the memory in normal use. (120k plus another 22k for plugin container)?
Or should that be lot more - task manager shows 120,000k plus 22,000k?

Chrysalis · 29-09-2011, 11:46

I think its evident now mozilla guys dont care about the horrendous memory leaks. Or it seems the stuttering freeze lag issues. As its a problems that been there since at least v3 of firefox, and got worse in ff5+

**Russ** · 29-09-2011, 11:48

I've been using this for a few days and my only concern was my Norton Toolbar was incompatible with it. Symantec have now released a patch to make it work so i have no complaints.

Although I will say one thing, I see and experience no difference to older versions of FF.

downquark1 · 29-09-2011, 12:52

They are trying to catch the numbering up with google chrome so they are doing "micro-releases" where you are unlikely to see the difference from version to version.

Chrysalis · 29-09-2011, 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1

They are trying to catch the numbering up with google chrome so they are doing "micro-releases" where you are unlikely to see the difference from version to version.

I do see differences, which so far are mostly negative.

on ff4, bartab works mostly.
on ff5 it works a bit less.
on ff6 its pretty much completely broken.

on ff4, memory leak on idle is continous and lasts forever until activity or ff crashes.
ff5 it is continous but also some kind of routine on the app periodically resets the memory leak so its like a see saw affect.

ff4 had significantly less stuttering/stalls then 3.6 but then this improvement dissapeared again in ff5/6.

**Stuart** · 29-09-2011, 15:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1

They are trying to catch the numbering up with google chrome so they are doing "micro-releases" where you are unlikely to see the difference from version to version.

I think the big three browser makers (and especially Google and Mozilla) seem to have engaged in some sort of version number based (ahem) waving contest..

I'll stick with Opera. At least with them you know that if the browser number goes up by one, it's had quite a large change.

raging bull · 30-09-2011, 14:53

Now Firefox on 7.0.1, good and bad news!
Just sitting on homepage,plug-incontainer.exe running at 60% CPU usage 37,000k whilst firefox.exe running at 8% CPU usage 112,600k.
That to me is too much?

downquark1 · 30-09-2011, 15:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by raging bull

Now Firefox on 7.0.1, good and bad news!
Just sitting on homepage,plug-incontainer.exe running at 60% CPU usage 37,000k whilst firefox.exe running at 8% CPU usage 112,600k.
That to me is too much?

A lot of flash animations on it?

There's only so much firefox can do to fix flash CPU use.

raging bull · 30-09-2011, 15:18

On cableforum? (must have been that car ad on Virgin Media.)

Chrysalis · 01-10-2011, 07:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1

A lot of flash animations on it?

There's only so much firefox can do to fix flash CPU use.

I am stil baffled at some of the browser benchmarks I have seen for firefox.

From real world usage its very evident firefox is slower than both IE9 and opera (havent tested chrome).

When I benchmarked it my score was also significantly slower than IE9.

Firefox still stuck on the slow and poor sql storage format, thats a big part of its problem. Another is the huge files it writes to. eg. IE9 stores every cookie seperate so many little files whilst firefox stores them in one big file so if one cookies needs updating I get lag whilst its writing the cookie to a 5meg file. Firefox has stuck with these storage files since they were introduced I think back with ff2. I read claims on every new version its faster, memory leaks fixed, stalls fixed etc. When the fact is ff6 is more memory, and stutters more than 3.6. The 3d graphics acceleration in firefox 4 and upwards works much worse than IE9 as well. The single saving grace for firefox is its addons, as they can make the browser do wonderful things, but firefox with its very frequent updates is now causing popular addons to break meaning they may lose that one good thing they have.