Sky sharing BT poles

muppetman11 · 27-04-2011, 20:20

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04...s_poles_trial/

**Stephen** · 27-04-2011, 20:22

Have changed the title to something a bit more descriptive and accurate.

muppetman11 · 27-04-2011, 20:24

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Have changed the title to something a bit more descriptive and accurate.

I hit submit without finishing LOL

craigj2k12 · 28-04-2011, 14:27

interesting how sky are deploying their own network..

**Chris** · 28-04-2011, 15:34

Only if they target areas BT's not interested in. Otherwise it's a bit pointless IMO.

craigj2k12 · 28-04-2011, 23:23

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Only if they target areas BT's not interested in. Otherwise it's a bit pointless IMO.

if BT are not interested in those area then why would they have poles there lol

**Stuart** · 29-04-2011, 00:19

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if BT are not interested in those area then why would they have poles there lol

BT are required by law to provide (on demand) a telephone service for every home in the UK. As such they do have poles or ducts everywhere, because they are required to, whether the demand is there or not.

There is no such requirement for them to provide Broadband internet access though.

craigj2k12 · 29-04-2011, 12:01

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BT are required by law to provide (on demand) a telephone service for every home in the UK. As such they do have poles or ducts everywhere, because they are required to, whether the demand is there or not.

There is no such requirement for them to provide Broadband internet access though.

if they are using fibre, then they might possibly be targeting rural areas, however, with the recent FTTH plans moving forward with virgin and talktalk, i dont really think sky would be able to compete with 1gb/1gb.

The article doesnt give much details, but I presume sky will roll out FTTC through their own network, I cant see them doing FTTH, or that would have been mentioned

**Chris** · 29-04-2011, 17:40

Actually there is a very good incentive for them to try to do FTTP rather than to the cab. BT are generally only doing fibre to the cab, and as Sky are most likely going to go for the same easy-to-serve areas that BT has gone for, rather than the rural areas Fujitsu has proposed to develop, the only way for them to avoid the exercise being expensive and a bit pointless would be to use it to offer something BT cannot. FTTP offers vastly greater bandwidth and could in time make BT Infinity look pedestrian.

Incidentally, there is a BT pole right outside my house - a pole that will not, without a lot of State subsidy, ever carry a length of fibre. As Stu has said, BT has ducts and poles across the entire nation because they are forced to by law. Whether they ever decide to run Infinity fibres through those ducts and over those poles is another issue.

craigj2k12 · 30-04-2011, 17:27

we are all speculating, does anyone have anything solid to go on?

Ignitionnet · 01-05-2011, 08:03

No-one outside of those guys knows what areas Fujitsu will specifically be doing.

There's a fair bit of quite nice low-hanging fruit to be had from the 'rural' areas. Fujitsu's business model there has legs. Nice, easy to cover, affluent areas with reasonably well clustered homes.

**Chris** · 01-05-2011, 09:42

I guess the question is, what view will the people giving out the grants take? If they're giving out serious cash to subsidise hard to reach locations, are they going to let themselves be duped into believing that rural=hard? Fujitsu has stated its plans are conditional on grant funding from that Government pot.

Ignitionnet · 01-05-2011, 10:23

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I guess the question is, what view will the people giving out the grants take? If they're giving out serious cash to subsidise hard to reach locations, are they going to let themselves be duped into believing that rural=hard? Fujitsu has stated its plans are conditional on grant funding from that Government pot.

They'll take the view that they are required to take.

This isn't serious cash as far as deploying FTTP goes to be honest. It won't make a dent in supplying someone like your good self.

craigj2k12 · 01-05-2011, 12:12

what about sky though?

**Stuart** · 01-05-2011, 17:00

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They'll take the view that they are required to take.

This isn't serious cash as far as deploying FTTP goes to be honest. It won't make a dent in supplying someone like your good self.

TBH, I think they'd be more likely to target some of the more affluent villages around Kent and the Middle of England than they would the more remote parts of Scotland.