Webdesign links help.

[grandmaster]

Afternoon Ladies and Gents,

I have a website (whoohoo I hear you cry) and for the life of me I cannot figure out why the links do not work.

The site is made up of 5 frames header,footer,left and right & content with the left holding the menu.
The menu is just a table with links inside that when clicked throw the content in to the content frame...simple..
For some reason though the links do not work unless the home link is clicked first, after this they work a treat.
I have tried refreshing that frame but that does nothing.
There is no Javascript or anything fancy just the table.

Any ideas anyone?

[crazymaniac]

What you using to make the site? Notepad?

[ikthius]

I done this once with only once. I found out that if you always want it to show what you want you need to make one page as your container page that holds the frame, and each frame works independantly so to speak

but if you want to refresh all the time, get rid of frames and go CSS way

ik

edit: well I went over your post again.

one page holds 5 frames.
they all act on an individual basis, you are only refreshing the content pane, so when you click a link, this shows up in the frame you specified for that content, all your doing here is telling that frame to show something else, your not asking the other frames to show anything different.

[punky]

What's the URL? Tried the one in your link and it just goes to some CMS holding page.

[grandmaster]

Thanks for the replies.

yeah I need to update my sig, I was forced to move host (former I-web customer) and have not had the time to sort my site yet.

For the moment i would prefer not to post the link until the site is sorted.

I'll PM you gavin if that is ok.

Regards


Ryan

[webcrawler2050]

Hey there,

I fyou would like to PM me the source code of your menu, ill happily take a look!

[ikthius]

grandmaster, we are just trying to help.

so the more people you ask the more help you will get.

so I am another willing to help

ik

[grandmaster]

I appreciate all your replies.

The website is located at http://www.britishclubdivers.co.uk/flowers

Please..no laughing at my (poor) design skills

[mentalis]

Where is this site hosted at the moment? You may need to get them to throw more coal on the fire as the site seems to be running a bit slow, and even then nothing loaded (just the main page - none of the frames appeared).

[grandmaster]

twas a *very* cheap host to tide me over hence the slownesss.
Once i get my self sorted I'll go on the hunt for a UK host I think.

[ikthius]

my initial thoughts are change the size...... as it goes off the screen to the right for me

ik

[ikthius]

I think I know what you mean.

I think you were meaning that everything looks ok when you click a link, but the home page is not doing the same???

well keep your index page as just the frames, but have the main page called something different like start.html

here is what I would do.

have one page called index with your frames.
tell all frames to have what html file, but the main content page starts with your home page content, but call that something different like start.
then your frames will change when clicked nicely, then when you click the home link, make sure that changes just the content frame to show the start html page

I have made a small excel file to show what I mean

ik

[ikthius]

another thing, as your using frames, you need the initial first page to show it correctly, you could go to each individual page on there own, but no frames

http://britishclubdivers.co.uk/flowers/contact.html

ik

[grandmaster]

Originally Posted by ikthius

my initial thoughts are change the size...... as it goes off the screen to the right for me

ik

Could you post a screenshot please??
TIA.

I'm not sure I follow your other post, let me try and explain my problem again.
When the site loads, it loads fine. (to me and my bad design eyes everything looks fine)
When the site has loaded,If I click any other link before clicking the home link nothing happens.
Once I click the home link then the other links work fine..
I can then click any link and it will update the center frame 'mainFrame' IIRC.
Its all fine and dandy until I reload the site then the above happens.
The links do not work until I have clicked the home link.

I really appreciate you taking the time to help!!

Ryan

[ikthius]

Originally Posted by grandmaster

Could you post a screenshot please??
TIA.

I'm not sure I follow your other post, let me try and explain my problem again.
When the site loads, it loads fine. (to me and my bad design eyes everything looks fine)
When the site has loaded,If I click any other link before clicking the home link nothing happens.
Once I click the home link then the other links work fine..
I can then click any link and it will update the center frame 'mainFrame' IIRC.
Its all fine and dandy until I reload the site then the above happens.
The links do not work until I have clicked the home link.

I really appreciate you taking the time to help!!

Ryan

here is my code I used for my website a long time ago, before I changed to CSS

I had index.html as main home page that held the frames, thten in the frames I had:
Navigate.html (obvious)
start.html for the main home page content

Navigation code:

<A HREF="start.html" target="showframe">Home</A>&nbsp;|
<A HREF="syllabus.html" target="showframe">Syllabus</A>&nbsp;|
<A HREF="historyC.html" target="showframe">Club History</A>&nbsp;|

Index code:

<frameset rows="8%,*">
<frame SRC="navigate.html" BORDER="0" SCROLLING="No" FRAMEBORDER="1" FRAMESPACING="0" noresize>
<frame SRC="start.html" BORDER="0" scrolling="yes" FRAMEBORDER="1" FRAMESPACING="0" NAME="showframe">
</frameset>

Start.html

<body>
<span id="tma">Temple Martial Arts</span>
<P><span class="heading">West of Scotland Kung Fu</span></P>

ik