Torrents or Newsgroups

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Just google merlins portal, best site about IMHO.

[MrJDGaF]

Giganews offer a 3 day/10GB trial for those that are curious. Also how can you compare paying about £12 a month for unlimited access to Petabytes of films/games/music/books etc. to going into a shop? Where do you shop that offers such a good deal?

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

it depends how arsed you can be. I use indexing sites that make it all easy but I pay soI do not have to worry about what groups the indexes are from. Even paying full whack for Giganews is excellent value for money. Each to their own and fair play to them but over the years I like to refine what I do to make it easy fast and simple. Got enough things to stress me out but finding my binaries isnt one of them

At least zing knows what he is talking about.

People never seem to understand your paying to use bandwith with usenet providers (as usenet was originally made for forum discussion and still is used for that as well as other things)

Downloading certain other things is just abit of a luxury that can go with it.

How can paying for bandwith even be compared to going out and buying a cd/dvd, b/w used this month 2.4TB, i wouldnt like to go out and buy that lot, id be in debt

It's like people who wont pay for newzbin, its hardly going to break your pocket is it, oh well, you guys stick to your public torrent sites and have the worry of being caught, as well as low quality crappy encoded cds, re-encoded dvds etc

Originally Posted by TraxData

At least zing knows what he is talking about.

People never seem to understand your paying to use bandwith with usenet providers (as usenet was originally made for forum discussion and still is used for that as well as other things)

Downloading certain other things is just abit of a luxury that can go with it.

How can paying for bandwith even be compared to going out and buying a cd/dvd, b/w used this month 2.4TB, i wouldnt like to go out and buy that lot, id be in debt

It's like people who wont pay for newzbin, its hardly going to break your pocket is it, oh well, you guys stick to your public torrent sites and have the worry of being caught, as well as low quality crappy encoded cds, re-encoded dvds etc

not everyone can afford extras remember that myself I have money I just choose torrents its a choice and yes maybe soon I will change to newsgroup but how dare you assume I cant afford these ngs or other people its choice at the end of the day and btw 2.4tb this month bring on more strict stm

[peanutkp]

Originally Posted by darthlinux

not everyone can afford extras remember that myself I have money I just choose torrents its a choice and yes maybe soon I will change to newsgroup but how dare you assume I cant afford these ngs or other people its choice at the end of the day and btw 2.4tb this month bring on more strict stm

It's up to him what he does and doesn't do with his connection isn't it. I don't give a stuff if someone pays out £35 a month and only downloads 2 gig a month or download 2TB a month, you pay the same either way.

Some people also think they pay enough already, ok £35 a month for 20mb but if you don't max out that connection (Torrents) then what's the point in paying for it. People don't see paying out extra for a news provider as an 'extra', it's one of those things that just has to be done otherwise the 20mb is pointless in the first place.

Each to their own obviously, and we all know that if you want a text based newsgroup you don't really need to pay anything and VM's own is good enough, it's the same as torrents, you don't use them for that kind of thing. Also if you try getting any basic TV programs from VM's groups then good luck as they don't carry the larger groups either let another all the main ones on top.

I suppose the term 'you get what you pay for' really does apply here.

Originally Posted by darthlinux

not everyone can afford extras remember that myself I have money I just choose torrents its a choice and yes maybe soon I will change to newsgroup but how dare you assume I cant afford these ngs or other people its choice at the end of the day and btw 2.4tb this month bring on more strict stm

I never said people couldnt afford it, i know some cant.

But i also know just refuse to spend any money at all, and those are the ones really hurting the industry, i, while i may pay for ngs, anythin i d/l, if its good enough and worth the money i go out and buy it.

If its crap, or only worth watching once, then its deleted after.

STM isnt gonna be around forever you know, another year from now it'll be turned off so i could really care less.

That, and im on business package, so i can do 4-5tb/month without complaints

I just dont know why you have to be so negative towards a torrent user

[peanutkp]

Originally Posted by darthlinux

I just dont know why you have to be so negative towards a torrent user

You'll find they ain't, the more people on torrents the less there are on newsgroups, so more under used they are the better.

in your eyes I was on about TD been so negative towards torrent users

Originally Posted by darthlinux

I just dont know why you have to be so negative towards a torrent user

Because i said torrents are crap and slow? that is true, you also with fast torrents from private trackers have to keep a ratio, a good one at that, which requires a rather large amount of uploading, i dont see why people would want to do that.

I rather enjoy downloading at full speed through usenet, i even upload there from time to time, and people are alot nicer on usenet imo.

Requests get filled alot quicker, and always in better quality than on certain torrent sites.

Yes i have a hate for torrent sites but that's just me.

Though i wasnt throwing hate at torrent users, more so at people who throw the "your payin to download illegal files" when your not, most of what i said wasnt even aimed at you

[peanutkp]

Originally Posted by darthlinux

in your eyes I was on about TD been so negative towards torrent users

Compared to newsgroups torrents are crap, but each to their own. It's all too easy to compare the Two when there is no comparison. Espescially when someone says different.

I think I am nice guy never been told I am that nasty so one question why do you think a torrent user isnt a nice person tbh I have spoke to someone that was d/l a torrent and prob never will need to

[peanutkp]

I think a person needs to try both at their best to understand the differences between the Two, then there shouldn't really be any arguments anyway.

People use Torrents for 2 reasons, One, they are free, and Two they've not tried newsgroups. I ain't saying newsgroups are the end all and be all of downloading whatever, but for anyone who uses torrents run a greater risk and the users of torrents download the same things as those on newsgroups, the legalilty side of it is still the same either way. Apart from they are 'sharing' which can be classed as a tad more dodgy in certain views.

Originally Posted by darthlinux

I think I am nice guy never been told I am that nasty so one question why do you think a torrent user isnt a nice person tbh I have spoke to someone that was d/l a torrent and prob never will need to

Again, it was never specifically aimed at you.

But mostly torrent users want want want and never wanna give much back.

It's something i've seen over the years, even back in p2p kazaa days users used to msg u wanting this and that without sharing anything.

Usenet is on a whole different level imo.

[v0id]

Originally Posted by TraxData

Again, it was never specifically aimed at you.

But mostly torrent users want want want and never wanna give much back.

Usenet is on a whole different level imo.

eh? usenet is a leechers paradise where you don't have to give back what you take, whereas BT actually relys on it :/