Noisy Neighbours

[LSainsbury]

Hi,

Is it wrong to video evidence of neighbours kids outside who are mucking about and generally causing a nuisance - shouting, screaming, skidding on bikes up and down the road for hours on end?




Lee

[Chimaera]

Probably! I expect it's against their 'rights' - and you have to be careful if you are making videos of children.........
I think you have to put a notice to the effect that you are videoing - which may act as a deterrent anyway, and if not, they have been warned!

[LSainsbury]

OK - what if I have a webcam setup to keep an eye on my car and they just happen to come into shot...

[Jules]

I think it depends on whether or not the car is on your property or out in the street, but I could be wrong

[LSainsbury]

The car is in an allocated parking space which we own as part of our property, along with a section of footpath...

[Chimaera]

Well, I'd personally go for it then, just put the notice up saying 'These premises are under video surveillance' in big bright letters or something to that effect - if they can read it you may find they stay away anyway!

[Druchii]

Originally Posted by lsainsbury

OK - what if I have a webcam setup to keep an eye on my car and they just happen to come into shot...

Go for it You own the premesis.

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by lsainsbury

Hi,

Is it wrong to video evidence of neighbours kids outside who are mucking about and generally causing a nuisance - shouting, screaming, skidding on bikes up and down the road for hours on end?




Lee

What do you intend to do with the recorded video? Will you store it, and if a crime has been committed, show the video to the police? Or do you want to use it as evidence for a "noise abatement order" (or whatever) from the council? Or perhaps you will show the kids parents' the tapes, so they can see how their little darlings are behaving?

In any scenario you ought to have a plan ready (preferably written), and ideally have the plan "approved" before you begin filming. Just imagine that you are in court, and the judge asks "so tell us why you were filming children playing in the street?"...

[banjo]

I have done exactly this for a few years now I have shown the evidence to the police and they have warned one of the youths at the police station to stop harassing me, two others have been threatened with arrest.

All has been peace for the last 6 months, do not let them get away with them harassing you

[Druchii]

Originally Posted by banjo

I have done exactly this for a few years now I have shown the evidence to the police and they have warned one of the youths at the police station to stop harassing me, two others have been threatened with arrest.

All has been peace for the last 6 months, do not let them get away with them harassing you

We're thinking of getting CCTV fitted it's that bad round here at times... However, it's rather expensive to get it done right and sheilded from bricks etc...

[Kliro]

afaik you are allowed to film within the boundry of your property but must make sure thatn the cameras don't capture outside.

Not sure about being able to film the parking space or pavement though, as these would be a right of way??

Then again on 'neighbours from hell' I have seen people film neighbours away from their property and be allowed to use it a evidence.

Remember;

If you have a dispute with these neighbours via the police or mediator, you have to declare this when you come to sell the house.

[LSainsbury]

Originally Posted by TheNorm

What do you intend to do with the recorded video? Will you store it, and if a crime has been committed, show the video to the police? Or do you want to use it as evidence for a "noise abatement order" (or whatever) from the council? Or perhaps you will show the kids parents' the tapes, so they can see how their little darlings are behaving?

In any scenario you ought to have a plan ready (preferably written), and ideally have the plan "approved" before you begin filming. Just imagine that you are in court, and the judge asks "so tell us why you were filming children playing in the street?"...

It will be used to show the housing authority what we have to put up with - and the utter mess they have made by putting rental tenants in the same street as full blown mortgage holders and shared ownership tenants....guess which group are causing the most issues?

Let the judge ask me - he'll see the evidence for himself....

[banjo]

You won't have to see a judge, the police are very anti hooligan these days and have new powers to deal with them, a word of advice never get drawn into an argument and do not let yourself be brought down to their level.

I have a house mounted camera with sound and a camcorder that I have used to gather evidence, do not tell them that you are taping them and when you show the police your evidence be very calm and explain that this behaviour is upsetting you and ruining your life, do not take this on half heartedly as you will make enemies, but in my experience it has been worth it.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Druchii

We're thinking of getting CCTV fitted it's that bad round here at times... However, it's rather expensive to get it done right and sheilded from bricks etc...

The first camera I installed, before I had secure fencing around my property was installed in the top corner of one of my windows. It was fairly discrete, although it is helped that even getting close to the house the ground floor level is aboit 6ft above the garden path. I would of thought that with the choice of tiny cameras on offer these days you could disguise one fitted in the window. The only problem I found was the shadow if you had the light on in the living room and the curtains open, but that's not something I do very often.

I have added a couple of flashing LED's just above my camera, and on more than one occassion before I got the secure fencing I have had people enter my land, (and when confronted they usually make an excuse that they didn't realise it was public land) they have looked straight up at the window and said "Whats those flashing lights" I have replied "Oh my CCTV camera is up there" There reply has been "Oh it must be a dummy one if it has flashing lights".

The flashing LED's are great, because they are not seen that much until you get inline with the window. It has the desired effect of making them look straight up into the camera as there attention gets caught by the flashing light.

[Druchii]

Originally Posted by Escapee

The first camera I installed, before I had secure fencing around my property was installed in the top corner of one of my windows. It was fairly discrete, although it is helped that even getting close to the house the ground floor level is aboit 6ft above the garden path. I would of thought that with the choice of tiny cameras on offer these days you could disguise one fitted in the window. The only problem I found was the shadow if you had the light on in the living room and the curtains open, but that's not something I do very often.

I have added a couple of flashing LED's just above my camera, and on more than one occassion before I got the secure fencing I have had people enter my land, (and when confronted they usually make an excuse that they didn't realise it was public land) they have looked straight up at the window and said "Whats those flashing lights" I have replied "Oh my CCTV camera is up there" There reply has been "Oh it must be a dummy one if it has flashing lights".

The flashing LED's are great, because they are not seen that much until you get inline with the window. It has the desired effect of making them look straight up into the camera as there attention gets caught by the flashing light.

The window we'd have it mounted too is always being open and closed, so a camera there would be pretty useless. I do like the idea of the LED's though