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Old 10-09-2006, 10:46   #1
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Smell

What is up with the everyone and everything needing to smell 'nice'.

At my local supermarket there are 90 air freshner products.
Sprays, solids, stick-ups, plug ins and even light activated sprays.

I lost count of other products whose main purpose was to mask smells such as fabric conditioners, deodorants et el.

This, I think is an unhealthy obession.
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:49   #2
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I think the way some people smell due to personal hygiene issues is unhealthy but there you go
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:54   #3
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Re: Smell

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What is up with the everyone and everything needing to smell 'nice'.

At my local supermarket there are 90 air freshner products.
Sprays, solids, stick-ups, plug ins and even light activated sprays.

I lost count of other products whose main purpose was to mask smells such as fabric conditioners, deodorants et el.

This, I think is an unhealthy obession.
I can only put it down to obsessive cleaners who smoke or live with a smoker (all the ones I know seem to do this).
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:57   #4
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What is up with the everyone and everything needing to smell 'nice'.
I think it's more a case of people needing to not smell 'not nice'. I hit the gym 3 or 4 times a week and each time I go I encounter people who feel deoderant is an uneccessary optional extra.

Obviously I like my house to smell nice but if I know I'm having people around I'll go that bit extra - I have a bread making machine and I'll slap some dough in there as I think most people prefer that smell to the artificial 'plug in' devices.
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I like nice smells. Walked into a Gents toilet by mistake one time and almost passed out with the smell/fumes.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:06   #6
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I think you got to much time on your hands if you count the air fresheners in a supermarket
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I think it's more a case of people needing to not smell 'not nice'. I hit the gym 3 or 4 times a week and each time I go I encounter people who feel deoderant is an uneccessary optional extra.

Obviously I like my house to smell nice but if I know I'm having people around I'll go that bit extra - I have a bread making machine and I'll slap some dough in there as I think most people prefer that smell to the artificial 'plug in' devices.
but if people wash carefully, and often, then deodorant is not always needed.
But what do you expect in a gym? people go there to sweat, to workout.

I certainly would not shower and spray deodorant just to go to the gym, its a waste.
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Re: Smell

It is the obession for masking smells rather than personal hygiene.

Also there are some wonderfully sounding concoctions such as tropical fusion, bamboo & freesia, spice melange,cottonwood etc.

The formats available are mind bowling - plug ins with fans, 'electric' candles.

Oh dear.

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I think you got to much time on your hands if you count the air fresheners in a supermarket
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Whats wrong with smelling nice ??
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Old 10-09-2006, 12:47   #10
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but if people wash carefully, and often, then deodorant is not always needed.
But what do you expect in a gym? people go there to sweat, to workout.

I certainly would not shower and spray deodorant just to go to the gym, its a waste.
I tend to shower and use anti-perspirant after I've been to the gym.

I think the main issue is that some people don't shower or change clothes regularly - If you shower/bathe once a day (more if you have been doing manual labour (no, not writing instruction booklets), use anti-sweat, and put clothes regularly to the wash, there should be no "lingering" smells to need air-freshener for. And, unfortunately, the people who smell don't seem to realise it.

It is just like when you come in from the pub - lots of people are usually smoking (I don't, but my decision to go where others are smoking), and you don't realise it at the time, but you and your clothes reek of tobacco. When I get home, everything goes in the wash, and I have a shower before I hit the pit (otherwise, in the morning, the bed and the room stink of smoke).

Just my thoughts.
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Old 10-09-2006, 12:54   #11
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Re: Smell

We did a mini test sort thing.

People who use deodorant (antiperspirant especially) need to continue using these things as they tend to actually smell more than any non users when they go without.

I don't use deodorant, ever. It's really unhealthy.
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Re: Smell

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We did a mini test sort thing.

People who use deodorant (antiperspirant especially) need to continue using these things as they tend to actually smell more than any non users when they go without.

I don't use deodorant, ever. It's really unhealthy.
Love your reasoning, also known as "Post hoc ergo propter hoc", summarised as
  • When A occurs, B occurs.
  • Therefore, A causes B.
other examples
  1. A rooster always crows prior to sunrise
  2. Therefore: the rooster's crowing causes the sun to rise.
or,
  1. Ice cream sales elevate greatly each June
  2. The number of common colds lower greatly each July.
  3. Therefore: higher ice cream consumption cures the common cold.
Couldn't it be these people needed to use anti-perspirant more because they smelled more?

ps - Post hoc ergo propter hoc was one of my favourite West Wing episodes!
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Re: Smell

They make me sneeze so I have to avoid them. I do use deodrant - roll-on as oppose to spray, otherwise it would make me sneeze. I also use EDT, which is a spray but I find if I spay it on myself and move quickly out of the room, it's not so bad. Fabric conditioner I only use on clothes such as t-shirts and jeans, due to my sensitive skin. Liable to come out in a rash if I use it on, say, bed linen.

It's difficult being me
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Love your reasoning, also known as "Post hoc ergo propter hoc", summarised as
  • When A occurs, B occurs.
  • Therefore, A causes B.
other examples
  1. A rooster always crows prior to sunrise
  2. Therefore: the rooster's crowing causes the sun to rise.
or,
  1. Ice cream sales elevate greatly each June
  2. The number of common colds lower greatly each July.
  3. Therefore: higher ice cream consumption cures the common cold.
Couldn't it be these people needed to use anti-perspirant more because they smelled more?
It's a similar thing with shampoo.
Use the same shampoo for long enough and it no longer cleans your hair as well, because your sebacious glands (I think it's them) have managed to overcompensate enough to counter the stripping effect of the shampoo.
So people change shampoo, finding one which is different enough to strip the oils again, until your body compensates.

The only chemical cleaning products I use on my body is shampoo, unless washing my hands, I had bodywashes or soap, leaves me feeling dirty.
I don't use aftershave, I do use shaving oil now and again, but mainly just water.
I don't use deoderant or anti-perspirant, as I'll shower if I'm sweaty.
I've been told I have a nice smell, and I'm happy with that.
To be honest, as I don't have a sense of smell, I've no idea how much or how little aftershave/deoderant to use.

I can't stand walking through perfume departments, the taste is awful, and I really hate women who wear perfume on their necks
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Love your reasoning, also known as "Post hoc ergo propter hoc", summarised as
  • When A occurs, B occurs.
  • Therefore, A causes B.
other examples
  1. A rooster always crows prior to sunrise
  2. Therefore: the rooster's crowing causes the sun to rise.
or,
  1. Ice cream sales elevate greatly each June
  2. The number of common colds lower greatly each July.
  3. Therefore: higher ice cream consumption cures the common cold.
Couldn't it be these people needed to use anti-perspirant more because they smelled more?
I love your condesending attitude.

The examples you used are rather extreme, and quite irrelevant.

Deodorant is alcohol based - kills all the bacteria on your underarms, meaning when you sweat again, as you have lost your natural fauna there is less to inhibit the growth of the bacteria which causes smell.

Therefore people who use deodorant get smelly more quickly.
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