Terrorised by a gang of kids...

[Pia]

Arggggggghhhhhhh i'm so angry i'm shaking and everything!

I'm having problems with some people who live in my street, here's a bit of background info about it...

I moved into my house 3 and a half years ago when i was pregnant, and didn't really associate with anyone around here til about a year and a half ago, cos they are what we call chavs

Anyway, there's quite a big family who all live around here, two sisters, either end of the street- with kids, and me in the middle. I got quite close to one of the sisters last year, but this year we grew apart because she moved her ex boyfriend back in with her who sells heroin and because i'm no chav and i don't like to mingle with stuff like that.

Anyway, the last few weeks, their kids have been giving me and Cameron's friends (the kids next door but one who are the only other non-chavs around here) a load of hassle.
They are calling names, which i can ignore, cos they're just kids, but obviously with Cameron being only 3 years old i have to sit out on the front while he plays on his bike etc... So, me being the only adult out in the street, if they are throwing stones at people or my house i tell them to stop- then they go running to their mother and she comes out giving a load of attitude as if i'm harrassing her kids.

Thing is, it's too much to ignore, we've tried to ignore it, but they shout, they throw stuff, they threaten their mothers onto me even when i'm not even sat there etc. If i take them into the back garden the sit in the back lane outside the fence and give hassle. If we go into the house they bang on the front door or chuck stuff at the door.

Anyway, i rang the one i used to be close to and she said nothing, only that she'd bring them in her garden to play in there, and the other one, has been down to my house to confront me, and when i told her exactly what had been going on, she said that if she found out i was lying she'd be back round "to start".

5 mins later my mam came to pick Cameron up, and my mam went crazy at this woman for starting on me, and told her that if she tried to intimidate me again she'd be back round to sort HER out.
I think my mam was right to in a way, because now they know there's someone whjo isn't scared of them, even though i stayed out of the way when my mam was doing this, so they will think i am.

My mam has always taught me never to let people like that show that you're scared of them, otherwise your life will be made hell. It's right, but now i'm worried they'll start on me when she's not there. Anyway, i won't get the police involved, because people like that will have my windows out if i did such a thing, and they're such a big dodgy family that the police don't even do anything because it's usually a waste of time.

Sorry this is so long, but all this happened about 15 mins ago and i'm angry

[Paul]

You should really contact the police or your local borough council about it, people like that need to be dealt with properly because as long as people let them get away with it they will keep doing it. Do you not have a nuisance neighbour type number to call for your local council or a local Police number? If you allow them to continue then they will be more than happy to make your life a misery or even worse they will start picking on your kid in a more physical way.
Talk with them yourself to try and straighten it out and if necessary use your phone to take photos or videos of them if you catch them in the act, if your "mate" is happy to deal with them if you can prove they are up to it then fair enough, if not then the local council or Police should be contacted.

[Pia]

And all this happens after Sunday night, when i went to the nightclub with my friends and got beat up by about 10 big fat chavs grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
Got lumps all over my head from where the main one was pulling my hair out, and bruised a bit all over, but i held my own, and i'm so not a fighter!

They started on me cos apparently i called one of them a slag Yeah, cos i often walk around shouting abuse at people

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Originally Posted by Paul

You should really contact the police or your local borough council about it, people like that need to be dealt with properly because as long as people let them get away with it they will keep doing it. Do you not have a nuisance neighbour type number to call for your local council or a local Police number? If you allow them to continue then they will be more than happy to make your life a misery or even worse they will start picking on your kid in a more physical way.

I'm with Cameron every second, and if one of them even TRIED to hurt him i swear i'd end up getting arrested myself!

Talk with them yourself to try and straighten it out and if necessary use your phone to take photos or videos of them if you catch them in the act, if your "mate" is happy to deal with them if you can prove they are up to it then fair enough, if not then the local council or Police should be contacted.

I'd feel more comfortable talking to the council about the anti social behaviour, than the police, cos if i get the police involverd i'll be hoovering glass until i move out.... I would be able to talk the one i used to be friends with more, cos she's more sensible, but she's not gonna want to get involved, and if she does she'll be on suide with her sister.

It's gone further now, because there's a problem with the mother, before it was just the brats, that's what makes it more complicated, cos the silly trollop can't control her kids.

[handyman]

I would consider moving, I don't know how much of an option you have there.

I don't know if you know any big fellas over Darlo? I know bops local ish.

We where starting to get a bit of bother from the kids at the garden next door till I passed a message to them that I'd batter hell out of them if they did not stop. It's all quiet round here now

[Pia]

I don't want them to win though, and i don't want to have to move out just cos of this... Plus i doubt i'd get a better house from the council so i'd have to privately rent, which would be soo much more expensive, and i've got some debts to sort out first.

You can't win with these people, there's so many of them that no matter which hard beefcakes you threaten them with, they'll get some other dodgy buggers and it would turn into a full scale gang war.

[Paul]

Which council are you with?

[Pia]

Darlington Borough Council

[Paul]

You have the link so I would strongly advise using it The council can make it very dificult for them if they continue their behaviour, have you any neighbours you can talk to that may have witnessed the behaviour so that the council has further information and proof?

[Pia]

A few other people know what they are like, and that it's been going on, but nobody will get involved because like i say, it's a big family and they can make life very uncomfortable for people who live on the estate.

[Paul]

The thing here is that no-one is doing anything to stop it, if they took a stand then the odds are that the council would move them. If the family in question upped the ante and started getting more physical or started vandalising property then the council would have to act and so would the Police. By standing by and not saying anything the other neighbours are giving the trouble makers carte-blanche.

[Aragorn]

Reading this makes my blood boil.

What right have these morons got to upset your life? Just because they can't bring up their own brats with any respect (probably started a generation back, I suppose!).

You are right in not wanting them to 'win', but (I'm not an expert on this) I suspect the only way you will get a quiet life back is to move to another area - hopefully without having to rent privately. You've already said you can't ignore it and I doubt 'fighting back' would do much good (probably make things worse). The council might be able to deal with them but I guess only getting rid of both sisters would make things better.

I would suggest either having a talk to the council in confidence or maybe the local CAB.

[grandmaster]

CCTV is cheap enough these days.
I would try and place one out of site (upstairs window?)

You then have your evidence to take futher action.

How about an anonymous call to the drugs hotline!!

[Pia]

LOL, i wouldn't dare get them raided for the drugs after all this I'm hoping they will get caught oneday, they don't keep the heroin in the house but they sell cannabis and that's kept in there, they always seem to know in advance though when they are getting a visit from the police.

I guess i'll have to wait and see if my mam's scaryness has done the trick, if not then it will have to be the council...
All the brats are sat on my front right now- why do they have to sit directly in front of my house??? Annoys me so much.

[Paul]

Which is why they do it

[etccarmageddon]

speak to Russ - I think he does assasinations for a small charge?