is it ok to....

[kronas]

if this gets too hot this thread will be pulled by the team or me

i was just wondering what everybody thought, i was watching tv and i cant help but notice that women are dressed provocatively on many occasions, but is it ok for men to view them as objects, i admit i do view women sometimes as objects of desire and crave the passion, its like a switch that gets turned on (excuse the pun) but is it right though ?

im not saying i view them as objects exclusively, its just my perception, i know its acting, a certain dress sense with the actress, but sometimes its shoved in your face, equally it is in real life, so is it up to women to be treated with dignity and respect, to be 'covered up'

i know women fantasise at men, even when they are in certain situations, but i cant help it feel 'wrong' in a way, yet in another i dont

[Chris]

Calm down, take a cold shower, and make yourself a nice cup of tea. Then pause for a minute and wonder whether all the threads and posts you have contributed in recent months that are similar to this one might give someone cause to worry about you.

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Chris T

Calm down, take a cold shower, and make yourself a nice cup of tea. Then pause for a minute and wonder whether all the threads and posts you have contributed in recent months that are similar to this one might give someone cause to worry about you.

yep

[budwieser]

Originally Posted by kronas

if this gets too hot this thread will be pulled by the team or me

i was just wondering what everybody thought, i was watching tv and i cant help but notice that women are dressed provocatively on many occasions, but is it ok for men to view them as objects, i admit i do view women sometimes as objects of desire and crave the passion, its like a switch that gets turned on (excuse the pun) but is it right though ?

im not saying i view them as objects exclusively, its just my perception, i know its acting, a certain dress sense with the actress, but sometimes its shoved in your face, equally it is in real life, so is it up to women to be treated with dignity and respect, to be 'covered up'

i know women fantasise at men, even when they are in certain situations, but i cant help it feel 'wrong' in a way, yet in another i dont

WTF!!!! kronas is starting to get scary now!..

[kronas]

Originally Posted by budwieser

WTF!!!! kronas is starting to get scary now!..

lol, me scary

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by kronas

i was just wondering what everybody thought, i was watching tv and i cant help but notice that women are dressed provocatively on many occasions, but is it ok for men to view them as objects, i admit i do view women sometimes as objects of desire and crave the passion, its like a switch that gets turned on (excuse the pun) but is it right though ?

It may or may not be right but as men we primarily respond to visual stimulus (imo) and are also programmed to 'sow our oats' ( ).
Put that combination together in this day and age and you get a human that is very good at 'locking on' visually to an attractive woman and desiring her. it's nothing personal, it's just the way we are......

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

It may or may not be right but as men we primarily respond to visual stimulus (imo) and are also programmed to 'sow our oats' ( ).
Put that combination together in this day and age and you get a human that is very good at 'locking on' visually to an attractive woman and desiring her. it's nothing personal, it's just the way we are......

thanks for the sane response, i do agree, but a part of me gets mad inside about objectifying women, attractions come in diffarent ways though, but does it have to be always about looks, i mean thats a shallow thing right ?

[danielf]

Originally Posted by kronas

thanks for the sane response, i do agree, but a part of me gets mad inside about objectifying women, attractions come in diffarent ways though, but does it have to be always about looks, i mean thats a shallow thing right ?

Well, physical attraction is likely to be about looks. That's why it's physical attraction. When it comes to finding someone to have a relationship/spending a life with other types of attraction become more important.

There's nothing wrong with looking at women imo (within reason). Just be aware that looks are not all that matters when it comes to looking for a partner.

[kronas]

Originally Posted by danielf

Well, physical attraction is likely to be about looks. That's why it's physical attraction. When it comes to finding someone to have a relationship/spending a life with other types of attraction become more important.

this is what im getting at though, is it right to first base the approach of someone based on looks, then if you proceed to delve deeper, subconsciously the only turn on you have is looks, which then implicates your physical attraction at an emotional level, which is then procceded by sexual deviance, which is futhermore linked in to the conscious mind of 'wooing' the lady or make a suggestive remark..... i find that not right......

Originally Posted by danielf

There's nothing wrong with looking at women imo (within reason).

if i had the guts i would talk to women, alas i dont, so it really boils down to finding an excuse, which my puny brain goes in to overload and shutsdown, a blankness if you will.

Originally Posted by danielf

Just be aware that looks are not all that matters when it comes to looking for a partner.

i know they are not but thats a bit of a fear for me, when it comes to being there in a position where you are attracted to someone, how can you stop it from just becoming a physical, fantasy type game, where its all about sex and alcohol (not that i drink) what if it becomes a desperation game, where you buy gifts, not because your obligated by a relationship, but you feel pushed to, to create a relationship, based on a passing, fleeting thoughts of possibilities, trying to make good impressions.

i hope all of the above makes sense.

[Cobbydaler]

what if it becomes a desperation game, where you buy gifts, not because your obligated by a relationship, but you feel pushed to, to create a relationship, based on a passing, fleeting thoughts of possibilities, trying to make good impressions.

Then it's bordering on stalking....

[AndrewJ]

www.google.com/images

[Paul M]

Originally Posted by Felinix_Devotion

www.google.com/images

Was there some well hidden point to that link ?

[Pia]

Women like to feel attractive... i am one of those wonen. But i certainly feel sexier in a classy dress than a par of hotpants.... NOt that i ever wear hotpants, but sometime men make me feel like an object by glaring as if i am something to just take to bed rather than someone to talk to...



By the way, i've just got in gfrom the nightclub so pardon me if that makes no sense

[bopdude]

Your pardoned

[ikthius]

Kronas.

my way of seeing women is take them as they come (no pun).

Some girls are very attractive, some very sexy, some sexy in a non attractive way, some are not nice to look at, some are neds (chavs to you), some have nice personalities, some are a great laugh, some want to be objects of desire, some not, some want love, some want just sex, some like a good drink, some are in the book club.

not every woman is the same.

just chat to women as if your chatting to a bloke, be yourself. Don't try to make every woman you talk to seem as if you want them. just chat about anything and everything.

in the end, be yourself. Thats what woman want (imo) don't try to be something you are not.

At your age, sexual tensions run wild, yes most females will be an object of desire to you at this point in your life, its just your hormones, you will control them in time.

just be kind, curteous, gentlemanly and a good listener.

but, I think celebrities & media do start certain trends. that makes it harder for us guys to not see women as just objects of desire. we are still animals after all that has a primative need to just procreate.

ik