What happens when you die?

ZrByte · 15-11-2003, 14:35

So what do you think happens when you die?
Just like people to post about what they think happens in those few moments it takes between life and death, and your views on what may happen afterwards.
As an Athiest I really dont believe in an afterlife, a lot of athiests I know say things like "I dont think there is a heaven but there must be something" I dont really agree with this, I dont think there has to be something, I kinda hope there is but I really cant imagine it, seems to go against everything I dont believe / Believe in.
Now the last few moments in life intrigue me, I wonder if you do see your entire life flash before your eyes? I really dont know what I believe, guess thats one of the biggest problems with not having a faith of sorts, the end for me is truley unknown, it does intrigue me though to hear other peoples views, maybe even get some ideas of my own.
Now I dont want this to turn into a flamewar (thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard, etc)
I just want constructive conversation, if there is something you dont like or understand about someones view try asking them to elaborate rather than smacking them down with goofy Smilies and lol's.
Oh and no short answers like "We goto Heaven" if thats all your gonna say then dont bother posting

:p now it would be interesting if you are going to say that if you could tell us what your view on heaven would be as im sure everyones view would be different (One mans Heaven is another mans Hell, etc)

**Paul M** · 15-11-2003, 14:45

Generally you get buried or cremated and that's the end of it. I don't, and never have, believed in anything more than this.

handyman · 15-11-2003, 15:11

I don't belive in life after death, as for the life flashing before you, one would assume this is the last throws of your brain as it runs out of oxygen. I would imagine that this would create al sorts of dilusional images and what not.

Marge · 15-11-2003, 15:16

Having had a near death experience a couple of years ago (car crash) I'm sorry to say I had no life flashing before my eyes etc nor did I feel frightend. I was aware of what was happening but had I kicked the bucket I firmly believe I wouldn't have known anything about it.

Bex · 15-11-2003, 15:50

this is a fantastic topic, and one that i have studied in a philosophical sense.....i spent a year doing a course called "matters of life and death" very interesting stuff...

ok.....as for the thing that happens a moment before death, i do not know, i think that as hm said the lack of oxygen can cause you to have images and thoughts which you could perceive to be real but aren't

as for life after death, i believe in heaven....i do not know what heaven is like, but i know that i will come face to face with Jesus....i don't think of heaven as a place in the clouds, with angels with harps and such forth, but i do think that it will be a place of peace and glory

Bex · 15-11-2003, 15:52

hell: ok my physics teacher once described hell in a very interesting way....his idea was that hell is continually living your life over and over again, making all the same mistakes and never being able to change them

ian@huth · 15-11-2003, 16:00

Can there really be a near death experience? You can either be dead or alive and if you're dead you cannot tell others about it, unless there is something after death.

How does the brain store information? Is it stored in electrical form or chemical form or a combination of the two? Does the stored information vanish when you die or does it remain? Could a brain be transplanted and if so whose memory would it have?

**Paul M** · 15-11-2003, 16:13

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Originally Posted by bexy

as for life after death, i believe in heaven....i do not know what heaven is like, but i know that i will come face to face with Jesus....i don't think of heaven as a place in the clouds, with angels with harps and such forth, but i do think that it will be a place of peace and glory

How do you know this, what proof or evidence do you have ?

Bex · 15-11-2003, 16:17

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Originally Posted by ianathuth

Can there really be a near death experience? You can either be dead or alive and if you're dead you cannot tell others about it, unless there is something after death.

How does the brain store information? Is it stored in electrical form or chemical form or a combination of the two? Does the stored information vanish when you die or does it remain? Could a brain be transplanted and if so whose memory would it have?

ok that depends on what your view is on the mind/body problem

materalism = the mind is something chemical......it is just impulses etc

dualism = mind and body are two disctinct entities, the mind is non-material, non-spatial, non-dividable, whereas the body is material, spatial and divisable

epi-phenominonalism = the mind and body are different entities but they are conencted normally this connection is ascribed to the amagadala )or something)

why am i saying this? no its not to show of, if one believes in either of the top two it will effect how one sees the afterlife

Bex · 15-11-2003, 16:18

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Originally Posted by pem

How do you know this, what proof or evidence do you have ?

i believe in God, i believe in jesus, i believe that the bible is the "breathed word of God"

**Russ B** · 15-11-2003, 16:22

Hell = a lifetime of listening to Celine Dion

Actually I'd just consider hell to be an eternity without Big G.

And as been stated many times before, us Jesus-freaks don't need evidence or proof

peachey · 15-11-2003, 16:23

It would be typical if nothing happened when you die

and all the arguing about it was just wishful thinking

still, you never really know

**Jefferson T** · 15-11-2003, 16:27

I haven't got a clue either way - but it would be nive to meet my mum and my 1st son again.

But I can't choose to believe in something just for my own gratification.

I don't think I've really thought about it a lot.

**Paul M** · 15-11-2003, 16:27

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Originally Posted by bexy

i believe in God, i believe in jesus, i believe that the bible is the "breathed word of God"

That's certainly an awful lot to believe in without any actual evidence to back it up.

Just in case you are wondering, I'm not going to say you are right or wrong, but I certainly don't believe in any of them as no one has offered me proof, or even evidence.

Even evidence is not always proof - Children believe in the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus because all the evidence seems to suggest to them that they exist - but of course, this evidence is not really proof.

Bex · 15-11-2003, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Russ D

<snip>Actually I'd just consider hell to be an eternity without Big G.

And as been stated many times before, us Jesus-freaks don't need evidence or proof

that indeed would be hell