Did someone mention a religious debate? - Page 2

Bex · 30-10-2003, 22:39

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Originally Posted by downquark1

Ahh, but if God appeared tomorrow and answered all the questions about life we wouldn't need to 'believe' he exists because we would 'know' he exists. So religion defined as would no longer be necessary.

This is not so much a serious point but one of those silly arguments wannabe philosophers put foward to look clever.

Sorry if my sentances are badly written - I need to go to bed

which argument? and who u calling a wannabe philosopher?

:p

well if you read my blog u would realise that knowledge is better than belief any day

(according to plato)

downquark1 · 30-10-2003, 22:40

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Originally Posted by bexy

which argument? and who u calling a wannabe philosopher?

:p

My argument, and me.

Bex · 30-10-2003, 22:43

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Originally Posted by downquark1

My argument, and me.

your argument has flaws yes, but most arguments do......good attempt at being a philosopher though

anyway philosophers are defined as "lovers of wisdom" im sure u theres a poss u could define yuorself as that......

after 5yrs of studying it you just become a pedantic bugger :p

Bex · 30-10-2003, 22:48

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Originally Posted by Theodoric

<snippity snip>OK, a question for the Calvinists and related believers out there, of which I suspect there may be a few. Would you care to attempt to justify the doctrine of double predestination? As to the meaning of double predestination, I cannot do better than to quote from Calvin's Institutes

i studied calvanism at uni, so will find my notes out tomorrow and have a look through and see what i can come up with

30-10-2003, 22:52

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

humphf.i think my question about pick and mix religoins was a betterone.humphf.

incog.

it was certainly a new spin on the subject - and imo the core of it - are we more obsessed with the minutae of a kind of faith - jews don't like pork, muslims pray many times a day, christians believe jesus was the son of god etc. Than the faith itself - i.e. do we believe in the concept of a higher order for the situation we find ourselves in - I do - I just have trouble defining it - and I won't stop trying, while I breathe.?

I told you you were an innovator?

Bex · 30-10-2003, 22:55

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Originally Posted by homealone

it was certainly a new spin on the subject - and imo the core of it - are we more obsessed with the minutae of a kind of faith - jews don't like pork, muslims pray many times a day, christians believe jesus was the son of god etc. Than the faith itself - i.e. do we believe in the concept of a higher order for the situation we find ourselves in - I do - I just have trouble defining it - and I won't stop trying, while I breathe.?

I told you you were an innovator?

almost sounds as though u are advocating a one world religion.....

now russ what that remind u of

:p

30-10-2003, 23:03

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Originally Posted by bexy

almost sounds as though u are advocating a one world religion.....

now russ what that remind u of

:p

we do all live on one planet - that got here?

Bex · 30-10-2003, 23:05

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Originally Posted by homealone

we do all live on one planet - that got here?

even so there will never be total agreement......i think it's obvious how i think the world got here......i.e God created it

30-10-2003, 23:08

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Originally Posted by homealone

we do all live on one planet - that got here?

gotta be careful here i am ok with Gaia - I just pressed return too soon?

Bex · 30-10-2003, 23:09

gaz u lost me now babes

Shaun · 30-10-2003, 23:11

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Originally Posted by bexy

even so there will never be total agreement......i think it's obvious how i think the world got here......i.e God created it

*goes to bed before he joins in the debate!!

30-10-2003, 23:12

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Originally Posted by bexy

even so there will never be total agreement......i think it's obvious how i think the world got here......i.e God created it

I never ruled out God?

Bex · 30-10-2003, 23:19

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Originally Posted by homealone

I never ruled out God?

fair enuff.......i'm getting old now, used to be able to stay awake till 5am debating religion and then get up at 8am for work but im an elderly bird now, and need my beauty sleep

night night

MetaWraith · 31-10-2003, 09:13

Injects levity into heated debate.

Calvinism ? Isn't that worshiping the cartoons of the brat and his stuffed tiger.

Gaia, Didn't R Danieel Olivaw has something to do with that in Azimov's Foundation series.

31-10-2003, 09:53

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Originally Posted by MetaWraith

Injects levity into heated debate.

Calvinism ? Isn't that worshiping the cartoons of the brat and his stuffed tiger.

Gaia, Didn't R Danieel Olivaw has something to do with that in Azimov's Foundation series.

hmm - I was possibly a bit incoherent, but didn't think we were getting heated?

- taking your idea of Calvinism - the outcome of the cartoons would be predestined, so we wouldn't need to read them

- not sure about Foundation, long time since I read it