vandals at it again

[Escapee]

I was woken up Wednesday night by a lot of banging and crashing, by the time I got my jeans, trainers and cricket bat in the dark the vandals were running up the road. They had broken the boarding off the empty house next door, smashed down the fence and broken three of my fence panels.

Last night I came home from work and saw things on the back path behind my property had been moved about, I could then see activity inside the empty house. I went and got my cricket bat and phone, I called the police and told them "get here in 5 minutes or I will be going in and laying out the little b*****ds in a neat pile for you". Last time I called them they didn't bother to turn up, but this time three cars and five police officers arrived within 3-4 minutes.

They got them out of the house and started questioning them, I told one copper I recognised the one jacket being worn from the previous night. The teenager kept denying it but eventually admitted he had been there the night before, the coppers knew the lads very well and happened to mention to them about a load of damage they caused somewhere else the previous night.

The one copper was a big guy and looked like a nasty piece of work, he said "any more trouble call us and we will be here" I said "No, I will sort them out myself they have had one chance" I told him that I will sort them out then go in the house and deny everything, he said " I cant condone that but I cant fault you, as long as you stick to your story it's your word against a bunch of trouble makers"

He said "You dont understand we have this all night, call after call. I have been a copper in a large city but smaller towns are getting worse"
He told me his girlfriends car was broken into the previous weekend and said he would of sorted them himself if he caught them even though it could of cost him his job.

I knew one of the coppers, and he spelt it out to the scum that I would be well capable of dealing with them myself. There is no chance of the police doing anything about it, all five of them looked sheepish and all apologised to me and said it will not happen again... Ha Ha

I mentioned to the copper about my parents car being damaged and the community copper wanting them to drop the charges because he was a "nice boy", we later found out that he was waiting to go back to court for other vandalism and fraud charges. The copper said that the community coppers and do-gooders make their jobs ten times worse, because every time they want to let them off with a few words of warning. The Do-gooders opposite came out and actually grumbled because I had called the police, according to them the kids weren't doing any harm. I had a good laugh in his face because when they run from my house the previous night they broke the miror off his wifes car yet again, I thought what an ar**hole you are!

The copper himself said "They need a bloody good hiding"

If they come back, I will be the one to do it no problem.

Originally Posted by Escapee

I was woken up Wednesday night by a lot of banging and crashing, by the time I got my jeans, trainers and cricket bat in the dark the vandals were running up the road. They had broken the boarding off the empty house next door, smashed down the fence and broken three of my fence panels.

Last night I came home from work and saw things on the back path behind my property had been moved about, I could then see activity inside the empty house. I went and got my cricket bat and phone, I called the police and told them "get here in 5 minutes or I will be going in and laying out the little b*****ds in a neat pile for you". Last time I called them they didn't bother to turn up, but this time three cars and five police officers arrived within 3-4 minutes.

They got them out of the house and started questioning them, I told one copper I recognised the one jacket being worn from the previous night. The teenager kept denying it but eventually admitted he had been there the night before, the coppers knew the lads very well and happened to mention to them about a load of damage they caused somewhere else the previous night.

The one copper was a big guy and looked like a nasty piece of work, he said "any more trouble call us and we will be here" I said "No, I will sort them out myself they have had one chance" I told him that I will sort them out then go in the house and deny everything, he said " I cant condone that but I cant fault you, as long as you stick to your story it's your word against a bunch of trouble makers"

He said "You dont understand we have this all night, call after call. I have been a copper in a large city but smaller towns are getting worse"
He told me his girlfriends car was broken into the previous weekend and said he would of sorted them himself if he caught them even though it could of cost him his job.

I knew one of the coppers, and he spelt it out to the scum that I would be well capable of dealing with them myself. There is no chance of the police doing anything about it, all five of them looked sheepish and all apologised to me and said it will not happen again... Ha Ha

I mentioned to the copper about my parents car being damaged and the community copper wanting them to drop the charges because he was a "nice boy", we later found out that he was waiting to go back to court for other vandalism and fraud charges. The copper said that the community coppers and do-gooders make their jobs ten times worse, because every time they want to let them off with a few words of warning. The Do-gooders opposite came out and actually grumbled because I had called the police, according to them the kids weren't doing any harm. I had a good laugh in his face because when they run from my house the previous night they broke the miror off his wifes car yet again, I thought what an ar**hole you are!

The copper himself said "They need a bloody good hiding"

If they come back, I will be the one to do it no problem.

Just make sure the tree hugging do gooders dont film you with a video . And give the scum a extra slap from me.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Just make sure the tree hugging do gooders dont film you with a video . And give the scum a extra slap from me.

I think the ones opposite normally turn the volume up on the TV if there's any trouble, that way they dont have to admit there are bad people in this world.

It's funny how they always come out of their house after the event and find an angle to support the person/persons causing the trouble.

One of the first things I would do is go in and remove the cassette from my own timelapse video

[Halcyon]

Im glad the police are doing a good job and actually turned up.
This issue of being able to tackle them yourself is all over the news at the moment and keeps coming up again and again..... how far can you go to defend yourself and your property.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Halcyon

Im glad the police are doing a good job

No by the sounds of it they didn't do a good job. Why was nobody nicked, when it was clear offenses had occured either then, or previously and at least one was identified as diectly involved?

edit: In fact, even if the evidence was not fully there, of who did it, police can arrest on suspicion, to allow them opportunity to investigate further, if they know there is an offence, i.e. the damage. Alternatively, even without damage being caused, there may have been public order type offences that could have been committed. A night in the cells might just do the toe rags a bit of good.

Originally Posted by Halcyon

This issue of being able to tackle them yourself is all over the news at the moment and keeps coming up again and again..... how far can you go to defend yourself and your property.

Reasonable Force - you don't have to wait to be hit, to strike first, if you have good reason to beleive you will be threatened. A citizen can use force to restrain an offender, when they know an offence has been committed. However you can't just lash out, there needs to be control, and when a person has been restrained the effort being applied will inevitably reduce. There is no such thing as "excessive force" as the very definition of force implies a balance is being struck between cause and effect.

Realistically the problems of these issues, and lack of police willingness to even bother with such issues is they know, even if on the rare occasion they have enough evidence to secure conviction, the offender will still only get a slap on the wrist. You can't win, you can't take the law into your own hands, but the law has no teeth.

Originally Posted by Bill C

Just make sure the tree hugging do gooders dont film you with a video . And give the scum a extra slap from me.

Hmmmm. That'll help.

Off to hug a nice oak.

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Halcyon

Im glad the police are doing a good job and actually turned up.
This issue of being able to tackle them yourself is all over the news at the moment and keeps coming up again and again..... how far can you go to defend yourself and your property.

No they were not doing a good job, they only turned out because I threatened to sort them out myself if they didn't turn up.

The last time they didn't ever bother turning up!

[Chris]

I watched 'Blessed' with Ardal O'Hanlon this evening. At one point he accuses his smug git neighbour of living in a 'Guardian-reading utopia'. For some reason it reminded me of all the best fights - err, passionate debates - we have on CF.

[Hom3r]

Well where I live some scumbags trashed akids play area 5 times in one week the council repaied it and that night it was trashed.

Baseball bats & kneecaps spring to mind

[Halcyon]

Originally Posted by Escapee

No they were not doing a good job, they only turned out because I threatened to sort them out myself if they didn't turn up.

The last time they didn't ever bother turning up!

Ah yes, Sorry I hadnt read the post properly.
Its terrible that they didnt bother coming out the last time. If something really bad had happened then the consequences would have been huge.
I cant stand vandals. Half of the time they dont realise how much damage they cause and the cost to replace things.

I often Belt the little ****s round here, funnily enough only once has anything been done to our house or cars, and I know who did that, I'm just waiting to give them a good hiding.

Sometimes I belt them because they look guilty, sorry I mean like chavs.

I had to laugh tonight, woman at car boot fair dragging her herd of *******s behind her turned to her mate and said, I fancy a PC for christmas, I couldnt help but tell her wouldnt you be better of learning to read and write first. Ohhhh how we all laughed.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by andyl

Hmmmm. That'll help.

You never know, it just might deter them from a life of escalating crime......

[Escapee]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

You never know, it just might deter them from a life of escalating crime......

I remember a brother of my long tern GF's friend, he started off with petty crime. ie: stealing clothes of garden lines and sweets in shops. I said it would escalate and he should get a good hammering to teach him a lesson. He progressed to robbing houses and eventually mugging pensioners.

One day he was robbing a house and ended up having a bloody good kicking, he quickly changed to the straight and narrow because he really thought the home owner was going to kill him. He is now married with a kid, and admits he learnt from the lesson because he didn't want it to happen again.

He said it became a way of life and an addiction, he didn't really need the stuff he stole but it was a habit.

Originally Posted by Escapee

I remember a brother of my long tern GF's friend, he started off with petty crime. ie: stealing clothes of garden lines and sweets in shops. I said it would escalate and he should get a good hammering to teach him a lesson. He progressed to robbing houses and eventually mugging pensioners.

One day he was robbing a house and ended up having a bloody good kicking, he quickly changed to the straight and narrow because he really thought the home owner was going to kill him. He is now married with a kid, and admits he learnt from the lesson because he didn't want it to happen again.

He said it became a way of life and an addiction, he didn't really need the stuff he stole but it was a habit.

He got a kicking and learnt a lesson, thats the way it should be.

Originally Posted by Nidge

He got a kicking and learnt a lesson, thats the way it should be.

The way it should be Yes it is.

The realty in this country is that the scum bags get away with far to much and are given far to much when and if they are banged up.