Keeping fag smoke out of my flat

[Rillington]

Originally Posted by Graham

Is there a window or vent on the stairs? Installing an extractor fan there might be a possibility.

There is no air vent on the stairs and no power supply either.
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Originally Posted by Ramrod

You should put it inside the first room in the path of her smoke, so that the air pressure in that room is slightly greater....unfortunately they are not cheap....

have had a look and we are talking £160.

Also there is no power supply on the communal stairs.

[David F]

Originally Posted by clarie

I think you could ask her. Be extremely polite about it, but just ask if she could possibly smoke near an open window or something. I am sure she would be reasonable if she is, as you say, totally reasonable. She sounds nice and I am sure she could help to come up with a fair solution if you could compromise too.

Most smokers in my experience will tell you where to go.They will happily argue there right to smoke where they want and poo poo anyones arguements about theres rights being infringed.I at this juncture argue about the residues of my bad habits(curry and beer) and ask how they would like my waste all over them.Ive often been offered violence but oh well
My response to the op would be if the door has regular draft proofing I doubt theres much getting into his flat.He most probably smells the revolting condition of the womans flat and belongings
Im an ex smoker btw the worst kind

[Rillington]

I think she will tell me where to go (argueing that she has the right to smoke in ehr own flat and that there are two clsoed doors which means that no smoke gets into my flat) and would take offence resulting in a very awkward situation.

There isn't any form of draft proofing and there is a gap of about 5 mm right around the edges apart from the bottom where the gap is virtually nothing.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Most smokers in my experience will tell you where to go.They will happily argue there right to smoke where they want and poo poo anyones arguements about theres rights being infringed.I at this juncture argue about the residues of my bad habits(curry and beer) and ask how they would like my waste all over them.Ive often been offered violence but oh well
My response to the op would be if the door has regular draft proofing I doubt theres much getting into his flat.He most probably smells the revolting condition of the womans flat and belongings
Im an ex smoker btw the worst kind

Yep, you're right, we'd tell you to **** right off, you moaning ****ers, cos we're all selfish murderers who couldn't give a toss about anyone else. Fags rule.






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Originally Posted by Rillington

I think she will tell me where to go (argueing that she has the right to smoke in ehr own flat and that there are two clsoed doors which means that no smoke gets into my flat) and would take offence resulting in a very awkward situation.

There isn't any form of draft proofing and there is a gap of about 5 mm right around the edges apart from the bottom where the gap is virtually nothing.

You say in your OP that your neighbours is perfect in every other way - why do you think she'll tell you where to go? She might be mortified that she's offending you. You've nothing to lose by asking her if there's anything she can do to help. If she does say no, get onto your council.

[David F]

and theres my point proven

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

and theres my point proven

Sarcasm. Learn what that means.

Originally Posted by orangebird

Yep, you're right, we'd tell you to **** right off, you moaning ****ers, cos we're all selfish murderers who couldn't give a toss about anyone else. Fags rule.

Heh! Heh! Tell you what though isn't there a phrase about jest and words never being truer and all that?

[David F]

Originally Posted by orangebird

Sarcasm. Learn what that means.

Maybe just maybe I was being sarcastic all along

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by andyl

Heh! Heh! Tell you what though isn't there a phrase about jest and words never being truer and all that?

There is. Load of old ******* if you ask me though.

If I was Rillingtons neighbour and had been told that my smoke was ruining his own space, I'd be gutted and try and rectify it immediately. I don't like the fact that people assume that because you're a smoker, you don't give a rats ass for anything or anyone and hold complete contempt for anyones personal space and comfort, because it's not true.

[Kliro]

If you want to avoid confrontation, and a possible falling out, this looks good:

http://www.bpindex.co.uk/manf.html?id=7172

Havnt been able to find out where you can buy them from though....

[Rillington]

I'd rather find a solution without a possible confrontation with my neighbour, who I have to live alongside. I am 99% that I would cause offence should I mention it and knowing the person as I do from others, it wouldn't make any difference and she would continue with ehr smoking behaviour in the same way regardless.

[clarie]

Originally Posted by Rillington

knowing the person as I do from others, it wouldn't make any difference and she would continue with ehr smoking behaviour in the same way regardless.

I thought you said she was really considerate in every other way?

[Stuart C]

Rllington, can you fit draught excluders to the door? I don't know if your landlord will allow you to fit them, but they should work if he will

[patrickp]

Originally Posted by clarie

I thought you said she was really considerate in every other way?

That's not as inconsistent as it seems. Smokers often have a lot of trouble understanding the problems their smoking causes other people, because it doesn't cause them the same problems, or if it does, they don't recognise/admit it.

I remember a few years back, a friend of mine who smokes asked to look at her TV: the picture was getting dimmer and dimmer. I had a look, and even adjusting the brightness and contrast controls didn't help. Then I realised the screen had a black coating on it; IIRC soap and water wouldn't touch it and I had to use meths on it. This thick black layer came off and, all of a sudden, her picture was back to normal.

The point of this is that a smoker wouldn't be likely to think that their smoking might cause this problem; despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, most smokers honestly believe that it isn't problematic.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Rillington

have had a look and we are talking £160.

Also there is no power supply on the communal stairs.

You would need to put the air con unit in your flat, in the first room that gets affected by her smoke-not on the stairs....