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Old 21-03-2010, 00:17   #1
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Can anyone help me with some legal advice.

I reciently made a post on a magazines website regarding a dating website because the sites admin and mods are abusing some of their users if they dont like them or if they complain about the way they r treated or services on the site which has been a bit off and on.

The post made in my and others opinions was discriminating against hetrosexual people this is what the post said.

"It also depends what you are going for; culture or pleasure. The gay district is le Marais. word of warning. Avoid Queen (the gay club) on les champs. It is NOT worth going too, as so many straights go there it's barely gay any more."

To me thats basically discriminating because of someones sexuality and i thought it was totally out of order and i pulled him up and he tried to say no and didnt want to hear my concerns so i posted this on a site...

I have also had problems with "websitename"... I witnessed twice the same moderator making comments discriminating against str8 people saying str8 people shouldnt be allowed in gaybars because they are str8. I made a complaint and "site owners name" didnt want to know. A mate of mine was also attacked by the same mod and was given 15 mins to remove so called copyright images from his profile that wernt copyright or his account which is a paid account would get closed. The mod threatened him ONLY after he reported someone was using pictures of his friends str8 brother on the site for a fake profile. My mate asked "site owners name" for confirmation of the terms and conditions as on the terms and conditions it says not to upload copyright material but the mod said on the terms and conditions it states u cant upload pictures of other people and it doesnt.

Now i didnt mention the mod who did this, all that was stated was confirmation was asked from the website owner that was it and he hasnt reponded.

Now the moderator has contacted me and threated libel and slander because of that post. On the same site, people have mentioned mods names, site owners name and so on and really laid into the site where i havnt i just stated whats happened and can prove the fact and yet they havnt been threatend.

What does everyone think of this?
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Old 21-03-2010, 00:22   #2
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Re: Legal advice

It sounds to me like a lot of people getting into a petty argument.
Being threatened with libel and slander over the internet is probably just a way of saying back off and I wouldnt worry about it.

In fact i would just not respond to or particpate with that forum/website any more. Just walk away, it's not worth the hastle.

Sometimes even if you are right it isnt worth fueling the trolls or anyone else that cares to just argue and argue.
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Old 21-03-2010, 00:47   #3
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Re: Legal advice

Ignore, walk away.

Sounds like the site's more trouble than it's worth.

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It also depends what you are going for; culture or pleasure. The gay district is le Marais. word of warning. Avoid Queen (the gay club) on les champs. It is NOT worth going too, as so many straights go there it's barely gay any more.
Not discriminatory in any way, shape, or form, IMHO.
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Old 21-03-2010, 02:11   #4
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Re: Legal advice

Rob i have to disagree he is saying he doesnt go there because of someone elses sexuality.

That in my opinion is discrimination its like saying u dont go somewhere because of chinese people or indian people.
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Old 21-03-2010, 02:27   #5
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Re: Legal advice

I read it more as saying "If you want to go there to meet gay people don't bother as there aren't any there any more" but maybe that's just my interpretation of it.
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Old 21-03-2010, 08:08   #6
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I read it more as saying "If you want to go there to meet gay people don't bother as there aren't any there any more" but maybe that's just my interpretation of it.
Yep I agree there, also the same as most websites in that they are private, the owners and those who run it can basically do what they want to do, they set the rules as to what is suitable on that website as long as they stay within the law for whatever country the website is hosted in. If you don't like it then as already stated just don't go there..

As far as copyrighted images the rules don't need to state that you shouldn't use images not owned by yourself, that should be taken as standard but although 90% of websites don't care the 10% that do are well within thier rights to demand removal..

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The post made in my and others opinions was discriminating against hetrosexual people this is what the post said.

"It also depends what you are going for; culture or pleasure. The gay district is le Marais. word of warning. Avoid Queen (the gay club) on les champs. It is NOT worth going too, as so many straights go there it's barely gay any more."

To me thats basically discriminating because of someones sexuality and i thought it was totally out of order and i pulled him up and he tried to say no and didnt want to hear my concerns so i posted this on a site...

I have also had problems with "websitename"... I witnessed twice the same moderator making comments discriminating against str8 people saying str8 people shouldnt be allowed in gaybars because they are str8.
A lot of gay people feel that way, they'd rather have thier own little secure place instead of mixing with straight people. All stems down to the fact that there's still a major problem with anti-gay feelings, gay bashing might be against the law but it still does happen and I've seen it happen so many times. When gay male friends used to follow us to the clubs the crowd would happily accept me and my partner even kissing but the gay male friends would often get a hostile reception if they carried on the same action. Hence most stick to thier own clubs and prefer it to be purely gay. It's a defence built into the LGBT community over the last 100 years and one that a lot of people are finding hard to break purely as the abuse that cause the feelings originally can still be found out there exhibited by some members of the public especially when drunk.

Just look at some of the nations lesbian bars, you try going on your own and getting in whether you be a gay or straight male I wish you luck
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Re: Legal advice

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Rob i have to disagree he is saying he doesnt go there because of someone elses sexuality.
Actually he's suggesting others shouldn't go there because of the perceived majority sexuality of the current customer base.

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That in my opinion is discrimination its like saying u dont go somewhere because of chinese people or indian people.
Then you clearly have failed to understand discrimination.
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Re: Legal advice

From what I make of the statement he is saying don't go there if you want to meet gay guys as there are now more straight guys in there.

There is nothing wrong with that really. It's like if you said to someone straight who was looking to go and meet some girls in a night club not to go there becuase instead of girls there are now more men.
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Re: Legal advice

To be perfectly honest there is the little thing called "Free Speech" so what you have said, or what they have said doesn't really matter.

At the end of the day it's their website and they can say or do what they like, your opinion on if they are right or wrong doesn't matter to them, they will just ban you or threaten you with legal action, to be honest it won't go to court because the police will just laugh at them.

I've got nothing against Gay people, in fact I think they are nice people just like another human being, unfortunately "SOME" people don't like it.

Everyone has an opinion and usually websites are policed by the Admins, That just says it all really, the Websites aren't policed by actual "POLICE" unless you're getting into anything really illegal.

Ignore them mate, find another website and forget about it.
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I've got nothing against Gay people, in fact I think they are nice people just like another human being.

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I read it more as saying "If you want to go there to meet gay people don't bother as there aren't any there any more" but maybe that's just my interpretation of it.
That was mine also. It's actually good advice bearing in mind that a lot of people go to clubs looking for some *ahem* action. A Gay person is less likely to get any action if they go to a club with mainly straight people.
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From what I make of the statement he is saying don't go there if you want to meet gay guys as there are now more straight guys in there.

There is nothing wrong with that really. It's like if you said to someone straight who was looking to go and meet some girls in a night club not to go there becuase instead of girls there are now more men.
Exactly how I perceived it too.

Nothing wrong with the comment at all.
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From experience I don't think the comment was as many have percieved (Gay men can be the most bytchiest people about and I've been on the wrong side of that attitude a few times), even so it's not discrimination and is actually very common in gay circles.

It's like some people who live in Blackpool saying don't go to that bar as it's full of tourists.. There's various reasons behind that comment from prices, crowds and also the type of people in there..

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Now if you want an example of discrimination then something like this fits the bill

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8578787.stm

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Now if you want an example of discrimination then something like this fits the bill

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8578787.stm
That is truly sad in this day and age as they are just another couple regardless of gender.
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[/COLOR]Now if you want an example of discrimination then something like this fits the bill

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8578787.stm
Oh dear...

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"We are Christians and we believe our rights don't have to be subordinated. We have religious freedom and we are not judging that but we are not prepared to have that sort of activity under our roof," he said. "These people are very organised and we have already been inundated with abusive calls and emails. It is really sad that people act like that."
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