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A campaining taxi driver is urging Number 10 to make a brand of bright headlights illegal before they get 'blood on their hands'.

Kenneth Perham, of Chapel Road, Smallfield, has been a night-time taxi driver in London for the past 37 years.

He is waging war against bi-xenon car headlights after he nearly crashed shortly after they were introduced almost 10 years ago.

The campaign started after he picked up a researcher for BBC's The One Show in his cab last year.

After listening to the 58-year-old's views on the dangers of bi-xenon filament lights while in the back of his cab, the BBC worker called him up the next day to appear on the programme.

Mr Perham has also set up an online petition to make bi-xenon headlights illegal.

If he gets 500 signatures by June 2010 he will have the opportunity to raise his concerns in the House of Commons.

Mr Perham said: "Take it from me, there are thousands of people out there who are intimidated by these brighter lights.

"I've spoken to hundreds of people and about 75 per cent agreed they had been dazzled.

"What happens if the government do nothing? Someone is going to die. That's what is going to happen, and then they will have blood on their hands."

He has also sent letters to the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents and East Surrey MP Peter Ainsworth for support.

Bi-xenon headlamps were introduced in 1999. They can improve brightness by 30-60 per cent.

Surrey Police's Paul Beard, head of road safety and traffic management, sent Mr Perham a letter earlier in the year explaining the benefits of bi-xenon lighting.

He said: "The light source requires 35 per cent less energy than conventional lights and thus helps to reduce energy consumption levels.

"The police have the necessary powers to deal as appropriate, with drivers who fail to adjust the headlights on their vehicles.

"Bi-xenon lights currently fall within the scope of permitted lamps.

"I do appreciate just how annoying, it can be when faced with an oncoming driver or someone travelling behind one's vehicle, to have to suffer 'glare' because of ill-adjusted headlamps.

"There is, however, plenty to be said in favour of using a system of lighting that gives an enhanced view of the road ahead."

For more information on Mr Perham's campaign, visit www. blindedbixenon.co.uk.

Source; ThisIsSurreyToday.co.uk

[Kymmy]

A very poor petition...

Bi-Xenon (otherwise known as HID) are perfectly good when fitted as standard or as a complete bulb/reflector/lens all in one unit. The are actually more economic, brighter, gives a more white light output and more importantly the correct beam pattern so not to dazzle other traffic

Instead it's the people who buy cheap H1 or H4 replacement HID bulb's and fit them in lens/reflectors that are not designed to cope with the longer and misplaced HID element. Then you get light shininging at all angles and not just in the normal beam pattern..

Had this arguement soo many times

If the petition was to outlaw the replacement bulbs then yes, but if they outlaw them totally then you'e got most cars made designedt decade with them in and also you;re removing some of the best lights out there from a safety point of view

[heero_yuy]

I have had Bi-Xenenon HIDs on my metro for the last three years and I ensure that they do not cause any glare, in fact I have them set slightly lower than the old H4 halogens. The quality of light is far superior than the old H4s with a much sharper cut off of the dip beam with the benefit of HID on the main beam. It's people who just swap the units over without getting the beams reset that are the problem.

[Taf]

Surely if they change the beam pattern, that would be picked-up on the MOT test and result in a fail?

[Kymmy]

Yep, but as it's so easy to replace the H4's for the MOT most people get around it that way

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

Yep, but as it's so easy to replace the H4's for the MOT most people get around it that way

The kits that are sold are plug and play fitment so reverting if needed is easy. I'm a member on a motoring forum for MG/Rover cars and people there are passing MOT's with the bi-xenons in place so the beam pattern must be satisfactory in those cases.

The problems really kick in with old badly constructed conversions or fitting the bulbs where the old filaments were horizontal but the pellet arc is logitudinal. Fortunatly the H4 filament(s) and the pellet arc are both in the same orientation and about the same length so the beam pattern is preserved.

There are some cars with badly designed headlamps in the first case that cause glare with halogens so fitting a conversion there would only make matters worse.

[tweetypie/8]

Originally Posted by Nidge

Have you ever been blined by these bright biXenon headlights? If so get this signed and help get them banned.

SIGN HERE.

Full Story Below.

A campaining taxi driver is urging Number 10 to make a brand of bright headlights illegal before they get 'blood on their hands'.

Kenneth Perham, of Chapel Road, Smallfield, has been a night-time taxi driver in London for the past 37 years.

He is waging war against bi-xenon car headlights after he nearly crashed shortly after they were introduced almost 10 years ago.

The campaign started after he picked up a researcher for BBC's The One Show in his cab last year.

After listening to the 58-year-old's views on the dangers of bi-xenon filament lights while in the back of his cab, the BBC worker called him up the next day to appear on the programme.

Mr Perham has also set up an online petition to make bi-xenon headlights illegal.

If he gets 500 signatures by June 2010 he will have the opportunity to raise his concerns in the House of Commons.

Mr Perham said: "Take it from me, there are thousands of people out there who are intimidated by these brighter lights.

"I've spoken to hundreds of people and about 75 per cent agreed they had been dazzled.

"What happens if the government do nothing? Someone is going to die. That's what is going to happen, and then they will have blood on their hands."

He has also sent letters to the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents and East Surrey MP Peter Ainsworth for support.

Bi-xenon headlamps were introduced in 1999. They can improve brightness by 30-60 per cent.

Surrey Police's Paul Beard, head of road safety and traffic management, sent Mr Perham a letter earlier in the year explaining the benefits of bi-xenon lighting.

He said: "The light source requires 35 per cent less energy than conventional lights and thus helps to reduce energy consumption levels.

"The police have the necessary powers to deal as appropriate, with drivers who fail to adjust the headlights on their vehicles.

"Bi-xenon lights currently fall within the scope of permitted lamps.

"I do appreciate just how annoying, it can be when faced with an oncoming driver or someone travelling behind one's vehicle, to have to suffer 'glare' because of ill-adjusted headlamps.

"There is, however, plenty to be said in favour of using a system of lighting that gives an enhanced view of the road ahead."

For more information on Mr Perham's campaign, visit www. blindedbixenon.co.uk.

Source; ThisIsSurreyToday.co.uk

a load of...s.

[Kymmy]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

The kits that are sold are plug and play fitment so reverting if needed is easy. I'm a member on a motoring forum for MG/Rover cars and people there are passing MOT's with the bi-xenons in place so the beam pattern must be satisfactory in those cases.

The problems really kick in with old badly constructed conversions or fitting the bulbs where the old filaments were horizontal but the pellet arc is logitudinal. Fortunatly the H4 filament(s) and the pellet arc are both in the same orientation and about the same length so the beam pattern is preserved.

There are some cars with badly designed headlamps in the first case that cause glare with halogens so fitting a conversion there would only make matters worse.

Being involved in the Rally Raid industry we fit a lot of the after market kits to both cars and bikes and found that sometimes on the cheaper kits the arc position is slightly out compared to H4's and this causes the beam problems with the reflector sending some light top to bottom and side to side instead of directly out.

Where possible we recommend direct sealed replacements where the unit is a complete all in one and designed for the job though have found some kits perfectly adequate...

[haydnwalker]

What a load of tosh... The BMW 5-series I'm looking at purchasing has HID bulbs as standard, and I think they are far clearer than standard halogens. Its the best visibility improvement for cars/bikes for a long time, and I hope more cars come with them as standard!

[rogerdraig]

i think he would do better to get the MOT changed slightly to make the deflection of the lights more reflective ( no pun intended ) of the lights we now have and or the laws on what is to be used but again not to ban but to put better rules of how they and the newer led lights are used

as i find some o the newer red braking lights extremely bright but is the highly directional light here that is the problem and all that is needed is a diferent defuser

it is a part of the laws on lights which need updating to cope with the many as i see it improvements in lighting but lack of conformity of use and apliction because of a lack of standardised rules for them

[alferret]

I find HID's a right pain an the arse. You know when a car coming towards you or from behind have these fitted. They dazzle me and when driving on a motorway after about an hour I end up with a headache and this is all down to HID's.

But I do appreciate the reduced energy consumption and the better whiter light.

Worth banning, not really IMO but better legislation as to only having them as a factory fit rather than an after market product as well.

[AbyssUnderground]

I find them a pain as well, I hate bright lights, and if it were up to me, if you were in a built up street lit area you would be restricted to side lights only. They [four letter word] me off big style.