Terrorists - report them.

Gary L · 30-03-2009, 13:31

I was driving along a road catching up a bus. at the back I could see a poster saying something like Don't rely on others. report it yourself. with a freephone number and it says anti terrorism.

no word of a lie as I started slowing down because it was pulling into a stop I just casually glanced over at the opposite bus stop. guess who was standing there with what looked like a pram?

a muslim woman with a mask on staring back at me!

It's getting beyond a joke now with this terrorism thing. are they telling us to spy on Muslims? they have to be. they are causing an issue, and if I was a muslim I'd complain myself what the government is doing in making us single them out and causing us to have an opinion on what they could be or might be.

Raistlin · 30-03-2009, 13:43

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Originally Posted by Gary L

It's getting beyond a joke now with this terrorism thing. are they telling us to spy on Muslims? they have to be. they are causing an issue, and if I was a muslim I'd complain myself what the government is doing in making us single them out and causing us to have an opinion on what they could be or might be.

I'm assuming from your statement that the advert specifically states that Muslims are all terrorists, and that's the reason that adverts/things like this are 'making us single them out'?

**Stuart** · 30-03-2009, 13:49

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Originally Posted by Gary L

I was driving along a road catching up a bus. at the back I could see a poster saying something like Don't rely on others. report it yourself. with a freephone number and it says anti terrorism.

no word of a lie as I started slowing down because it was pulling into a stop I just casually glanced over at the opposite bus stop. guess who was standing there with what looked like a pram?

a muslim woman with a mask on staring back at me!

It's getting beyond a joke now with this terrorism thing. are they telling us to spy on Muslims? they have to be. they are causing an issue, and if I was a muslim I'd complain myself what the government is doing in making us single them out and causing us to have an opinion on what they could be or might be.

In fairness to the Government, they are actually asking you to report stuff that is out of the ordinary. The "tourist" paying a little too much attention to CCTV cameras. The customer who regularly goes into shops and buys large quantities of bleach, that sort of thing.

While I don't necessarily think things are as bad as they are making out, they aren't specifically targetting any group.

Gary L · 30-03-2009, 13:54

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Originally Posted by Rob M

I'm assuming from your statement that the advert specifically states that Muslims are all terrorists, and that's the reason that adverts/things like this are 'making us single them out'?

No Rob. I don't think all Muslims are terrorists. I don't even think that all terrorists are Muslims.
There is no assumption to be made anyway. that isn't the point of the post.

Will the government say the same thing in response to what is it with this OTT scaremongering that you are funding in Britain of late?

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

In fairness to the Government, they are actually asking you to report stuff that is out of the ordinary. The "tourist" paying a little too much attention to CCTV cameras. The customer who regularly goes into shops and buys large quantities of bleach, that sort of thing.

While I don't necessarily think things are as bad as they are making out, they aren't specifically targetting any group.

They are targetting a group. the last threat of terrorism this country had was from the IRA.
So all of a sudden everybody be they whiite/black/green or yellow wants to be a terrorist, and can be seen as threat to becomming a terrorist.

it has nothing at all to do with a war that is going on and the ethnic group that is involved in that war?
and even the threats they have had made to this country?

It would be interesting to hear a Muslims point of view.

**Stuart** · 30-03-2009, 13:59

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Originally Posted by Gary L

They are targetting a group. the last threat of terrorism this country had was from the IRA.
So all of a sudden everybody be they whiite/black/green or yellow wants to be a terrorist, and can be seen as threat to becomming a terrorist.

As far as I am aware, the ads are not targetting one specific group.

**Damien** · 30-03-2009, 14:45

The adverts are not targeting any one group. They are targeting Terrorism. You might as well say targeting Terrorists is anti-Muslim because, in the UK, they are a group from which the majority of our terrorists will emerge from

Raistlin · 30-03-2009, 14:48

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Originally Posted by Gary L

No Rob. I don't think all Muslims are terrorists. I don't even think that all terrorists are Muslims.
There is no assumption to be made anyway. that isn't the point of the post.

Will the government say the same thing in response to what is it with this OTT scaremongering that you are funding in Britain of late?

That's not what I asked.

You made the connection between the Government's adverts and the Muslim lady at the side of the road - I asked if this connection was made because the adverts specifically stated that Muslims were terrorists, or if it targetted Muslims in some way.

If it didn't, and it just asked people to be vigilant, then how have you connected the woman at the side of the road to the advert?

Gary L · 30-03-2009, 15:16

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Originally Posted by Rob M

That's not what I asked.

You made the connection between the Government's adverts and the Muslim lady at the side of the road - I asked if this connection was made because the adverts specifically stated that Muslims were terrorists, or if it targetted Muslims in some way.

If it didn't, and it just asked people to be vigilant, then how have you connected the woman at the side of the road to the advert?

I made the connection because I'm to be what society will call a racist for making that connection to do with that poster.
I can't say so it has nothing to do with what is going on and I assumed that this is what the terrorism you're talking about?

What if a muslim was to have the same opinion but reversed? they think that people are targetting them and doing what the government is suggesting and targetting them as a result of these posters?

Do us White English people suggest to them that they are being racist against us, or do they suggest that we are being racist against them? or doesn't racism come into it at all. there is no racism because we're either paranoid or politically correct.

Am I a racist or am I just one of the new societys paranoids?

haydnwalker · 30-03-2009, 15:24

I don't know whether you are paranoid or racist - I do think you're taking it a little too far though. I do think the government has generalised it a little too much... anything could be completely normal to one person but completely weird to another. How are you going to distinguish between the two?

I've heard the adverts that say something to the effect of "report anything and we'll make the decision to follow it" If this was the case - the whole of the UK could be on the phone to them 24/7 (with paranoia).

The government may be trying to scare us...but its all speculation.

Gary L · 30-03-2009, 15:29

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Originally Posted by haydnwalker

I don't know whether you are paranoid or racist - I do think you're taking it a little too far though. I do think the government has generalised it a little too much... anything could be completely normal to one person but completely weird to another. How are you going to distinguish between the two?

I've heard the adverts that say something to the effect of "report anything and we'll make the decision to follow it" If this was the case - the whole of the UK could be on the phone to them 24/7 (with paranoia).

The government may be trying to scare us...but its all speculation.

Well I'll be interested in the results of this. I want to see what comes of any reports acted upon.
In the meantime I will still keep hearing or watching on the news about a terrorist plot has failed due to undercover work by the police. and I will still try to convince myself that I am being paranoid about these posters and ads being targetted at the ones who got arrested and they just happen to have a foreign name.