"Peaceful" Religions

[Salu]

I was forwarded this email recently. Perhaps some of you have received it too?

Does the author have a point? Should pacifists be more vocal etc? Do you disagree entirely?

Please don't make this an Islam bashing thread, it's only one example of the point the letter is making.

This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have
ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long,
easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is
said to be Dr. Emanuel Tanay, a well known and well respected psychiatrist.

A German's View on Islam

A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a
number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people
were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward
fanaticism. "Very few people were true Nazis," he said, "but many enjoyed
the return of German pride, and many more were t oo busy to care. I was one
of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority
just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned
us, and we had
lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything.
I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories."

We are told again and again by "experts" and "talking heads" that Islam is
the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to
live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is
entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better,
and meant to somehow diminish the spectra of fanatics rampaging across the
globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is
the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting
wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or
tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire
continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder,
or honor- kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque.



It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape
victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill
and to become suicide bombers.

The hard quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the "silent
majority," is cowed and extraneous.

Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to livein peace,
yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20
million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed
to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering
sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered it s way across South East Asia
in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million
Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be
said that the majority of Rwandans were "peace loving"?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our
posers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points:
Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.



Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because
like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the
fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans,
Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have
died because the peaceful majority did not speak
up until it was too late.

As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group
that counts; the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this
email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows
the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on
and on! Let us hope that thousands, world wide, read this and think about
it, and send it on - before it's too late.


Emanuel Tanay, M.D.

Well the peaceful Muslims in the community could quite easily have their voice heard by reporting and turning in fanatics and those guilty of preaching hate.
This then could get rid of the fanatical element at least in this country and similar western cultures. Then when plans are made and elders learn of them they also should turn in those guilty of plotting.
For some reason this does not happen. In the wake of the London bombings police were hunting suspects and no one can tell me community heads did not know where they were but they were not turned in this in my eyes makes them untrustworthy and until they do stand up and be counted against the atrocities in real ways by turning in those guilty of preaching hate then I will continue to distrust the Muslim community as a whole sorry

[danielf]

Doing a Google on Dr. Emanual Tanay suggests that, rather than being German Aristocracy, with a profound insight in the German psyche who thought that the Nazis were 'just a bunch of fools', he is a Polish Jew who has been vocal about the Holocaust and the Warsaw Ghetto. Somehow I wonder if he authored the above document, which makes one wonder why someone would suggest he did?

[Damien]

Originally Posted by David F

Well the peaceful Muslims in the community could quite easily have their voice heard by reporting and turning in fanatics and those guilty of preaching hate.
This then could get rid of the fanatical element at least in this country and similar western cultures. Then when plans are made and elders learn of them they also should turn in those guilty of plotting.
For some reason this does not happen. In the wake of the London bombings police were hunting suspects and no one can tell me community heads did not know where they were but they were not turned in this in my eyes makes them untrustworthy and until they do stand up and be counted against the atrocities in real ways by turning in those guilty of preaching hate then I will continue to distrust the Muslim community as a whole sorry

Terrorists usually keep their plans to themselves, they do not tell others and do their best to hide their actions from everyone outside the cell (group). In 7/7 the family of the bombers did not know, let alone the majority of the community.

This was from the police who did not suspect the family members and agreed that they did not know. You can't get presume these things...

A while back you made great posts but how the JW community was unfairly portrayed by the media. Why isn't the same true of muslims

[Hugh]

Originally Posted by danielf

Doing a Google on Dr. Emanual Tanay suggests that, rather than being German Aristocracy, with a profound insight in the German psyche who thought that the Nazis were 'just a bunch of fools', he is a Polish Jew who has been vocal about the Holocaust and the Warsaw Ghetto. Somehow I wonder if he authored the above document, which makes one wonder why someone would suggest he did?

And he didn't write it - it was by Paul E. Marek Linky, a right-wing canadian blogger.

And (imho), he is comparing apples with pineapples - all his examples are nation-states, with the resources of a nation-state to carry out the mass murders; Islam is a religion (unless, of course, all Muslims come from Islamistan).

Originally Posted by Damien

Terrorists usually keep their plans to themselves, they do not tell others and do their best to hide their actions from everyone outside the cell (group). In 7/7 the family of the bombers did not know, let alone the majority of the community.

This was from the police who did not suspect the family members and agreed that they did not know. You can't get presume these things...

A while back you made great posts but how the JW community was unfairly portrayed by the media. Why isn't the same true of muslims

I agree that the press plays a role but I was just being honest about how I feel