27-06-2008, 23:48
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Interracial couples
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Why do I seem to see so many more black men with white woman than white men with black woman walking the streets?
is it racism ? ... some kind of cultural congruence ? ... anger ?
What are the latest attachments made to racial stereotypes ?
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28-06-2008, 00:03
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Re: Interracial couples
Maybe men and women are attracted to different things, perhaps more white women are attracted to darker men than black women are to white men, it's not racial, what you're attracted to is what you're attracted to, end of. No racism, no secret undercurrent to get white women under the spell of black men, just straightforward attraction.
Anyone who tries to suggest racism has any part to play in this is just looking for trouble and with a bit of luck will be ignored.
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28-06-2008, 00:56
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Re: Interracial couples
Perhaps, perhaps not. I am racist ... and sexist ... and ageist, and all the other ist's and ism's there are in our culture, I have them. And so probably does anyone reading this, but are unaware of it. This is what motivates my topic.
Perhaps racism is a lot more common than most people like to admit ... http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=...-in-your-brain
It's usually difficult to face the shadow within us, some people can get very aggressive when something prompts it.
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28-06-2008, 01:24
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Re: Interracial couples
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Originally Posted by the_neurotic_cat
Perhaps, perhaps not. I am racist ... and sexist ... and ageist, and all the other ist's and ism's there are in our culture, I have them. And so probably does anyone reading this, but are unaware of it. This is what motivates my topic.
Perhaps racism is a lot more common than most people like to admit ... http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=...-in-your-brain
It's usually difficult to face the shadow within us, some people can get very aggressive when something prompts it.
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So, if you're happy to admit that you're racist, sexist and agist, perhaps you could explain why?
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28-06-2008, 02:14
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Re: Interracial couples
And more to the point if you do, even secretly admit to such behaviour, are youmaking any efforts to overcome these prejudices?
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28-06-2008, 04:07
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Re: Interracial couples
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And more to the point if you do, even secretly admit to such behaviour, are youmaking any efforts to overcome these prejudices?
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I wouldn't have thought he'd want to overcome his prejudices if his openly telling people on a public forum that he is a racist.
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Originally Posted by neurotic cat
Perhaps, perhaps not. I am racist ... and sexist ... and ageist, and all the other ist's and ism's there are in our culture, I have them. And so probably does anyone reading this, but are unaware of it. This is what motivates my topic.
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You really mustn't judge others by your own standards neurotic cat, I would hazard a guess the vast majority of people reading your post in no way consider themselves racist, consciously or unconsciously, in fact I'd go as far as saying most would find your statement repellent and offensive.
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28-06-2008, 08:23
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Re: Interracial couples
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Originally Posted by the_neurotic_cat
'ello
Why do I seem to see so many more black men with white woman than white men with black woman walking the streets?
is it racism ? ... some kind of cultural congruence ? ... anger ?
What are the latest attachments made to racial stereotypes ?
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My sister has been married to a black guy for over 20 years, I don't know what the attraction is, I'm not bothered though as long as they are happy it's all that counts.
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28-06-2008, 09:26
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Re: Interracial couples
Well, maybe it is because some women think size matters.
Some would say that a black man has something that is bigger than the white man. just as it is said than an asian man is smaller than the white man.
Who knows.
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28-06-2008, 09:50
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Re: Interracial couples
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Well, maybe it is because some women think size matters.
Some would say that a black man has something that is bigger than the white man. just as it is said than an asian man is smaller than the white man.
Who knows.
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LOL I asked my sister if that was the case?? She said no not at all.
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28-06-2008, 09:51
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Re: Interracial couples
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Originally Posted by the_neurotic_cat
Perhaps, perhaps not. I am racist ... and sexist ... and ageist, and all the other ist's and ism's there are in our culture, I have them. And so probably does anyone reading this, but are unaware of it. This is what motivates my topic.
Perhaps racism is a lot more common than most people like to admit ... http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=...-in-your-brain
It's usually difficult to face the shadow within us, some people can get very aggressive when something prompts it.
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I kind of understand where you're coming from. I found the article you linked to very interesting.
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28-06-2008, 10:38
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Re: Interracial couples
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LOL I asked my sister if that was the case?? She said no not at all. 
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Ooppsss.
Sort of cancels that theory out then.
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28-06-2008, 10:40
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Re: Interracial couples
I think if someone is happy to be -ist these days then I really have to ask if that is neccessarily a problem in itself. let's take the current hottest potato, racism
I'm going to put my neck on the line here and suggest that racism itself is not neccessarily a bad thing. I am not therefore by default saying I think it's a good thing. What IS a bad thing is beating someone up, murdering someone, giving them abuse, rape etc and all the other crimes which are often how racist people 'vent' their issues.
So to be racist, if kept to oneself, is no worse than thinking ginger people are ugly or any other such visually-based prejudice.
Is it racist to want to stick within your own ethnic/racial group? No, I don't think so. If the truth be known and if ask for a preference I would prefer my daughter to marry a white man. Would I disown, abandon or condemn her for marrying a non-caucasian? Absolutely not and would welcome any man she marries in to the family. Would my attitude towards him be any different? Not at all as long as he made her smile. I see that to be wanting to keep my family within our current racial group. It does NOT mean that by default I don't want any 'colour' mixed in, just as if football and rugby was on tv and I chose to watch the football that does not mean I dislike rugby.
It is not neccessarily racist to have racial preferences. If a man says he only fancies black women the moral police would be on him like wasps to jam. If however he was white it's whole different ball game. BUt he's still stating a preference of one race/colour over another, right?
The point I'm trying to make is it's not the attitude of racism 'itself' which is the problem - it's what it can lead to that causes problems.
My parents are racists. Would they petrol bomb the local corner shop? No way. Would they walk past a beaten-up black man needing help? No way. Would they abandon me or her if I married a black woman? No way. Are they supporters of the BNP and their policies? No way. But they are of the Alf Garnett generation. Thier racist way of thinking is very old fashioned but is however harmless.
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28-06-2008, 10:50
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Re: Interracial couples
I think the cat's point may be that he has these thoughts now and then rather than he is a complete racist.
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28-06-2008, 10:53
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Re: Interracial couples
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Originally Posted by Russ B
I think if someone is happy to be -ist these days then I really have to ask if that is neccessarily a problem in itself. let's take the current hottest potato, racism
I'm going to put my neck on the line here and suggest that racism itself is not neccessarily a bad thing. I am not therefore by default saying I think it's a good thing. What IS a bad thing is beating someone up, murdering someone, giving them abuse, rape etc and all the other crimes which are often how racist people 'vent' their issues.
So to be racist, if kept to oneself, is no worse than thinking ginger people are ugly or any other such visually-based prejudice.
Is it racist to want to stick within your own ethnic/racial group? No, I don't think so. If the truth be known and if ask for a preference I would prefer my daughter to marry a white man. Would I disown, abandon or condemn her for marrying a non-caucasian? Absolutely not and would welcome any man she marries in to the family. Would my attitude towards him be any different? Not at all as long as he made her smile. I see that to be wanting to keep my family within our current racial group. It does NOT mean that by default I don't want any 'colour' mixed in, just as if football and rugby was on tv and I chose to watch the football that does not mean I dislike rugby.
It is not neccessarily racist to have racial preferences. If a man says he only fancies black women the moral police would be on him like wasps to jam. If however he was white it's whole different ball game. BUt he's still stating a preference of one race/colour over another, right?
The point I'm trying to make is it's not the attitude of racism 'itself' which is the problem - it's what it can lead to that causes problems.
My parents are racists. Would they petrol bomb the local corner shop? No way. Would they walk past a beaten-up black man needing help? No way. Would they abandon me or her if I married a black woman? No way. Are they supporters of the BNP and their policies? No way. But they are of the Alf Garnett generation. Thier racist way of thinking is very old fashioned but is however harmless.
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I hope his/her parents and the rest of their family have the same attitude as you Russ.
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28-06-2008, 10:56
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Re: Interracial couples
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I think the cat's point may be that he has these thoughts now and then rather than he is a complete racist.
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See I don't understand that. Either you are racist or you're not, surely?
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